Is Turki Alalshikh getting a return from his investment in boxing?

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  • Sheikh
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    I think the whole point is amplify the influence of the Kingdom but there's absolutely no point because you can get a much better Roi doing things other than spending on boxing. Boxers are tremendously overpaid beyond their commercial value and there's no point. You can do a lot more impact by investing in other sports that have higher viewership.

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  • jqSide
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    Why don't you guys just cut to the chase and admit nobody is buying Alalshik's PPV's? Only a measly number buy PPV these days, all the more so with PBC fights because they're too expensive. Thieves are thieves. You can't say PBC fights are not pirated and Turki's are.

    Therefore we gotta have real numbers of PPV results, not manufactured ones. You're lucky to get 50K PPV sales in this day and age of internet and the demise of cable tv's

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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    Originally posted by brettWall
    He can't answer a simple question. That says a lot and you can tell why he's got this everything about Turki is free mentality.
    Nobody said everything about Turki is free, and it's bizarre that you are manufacturing such an inane strawman argument when it has nothing to do with the point.

    You still have yet to answer my simple question: how much do you make every minute? I'm guessing the answer is fugh-all. Until you understand that you're not even close to asking the right questions, you will never understand the concept here. Which has been pointed out to you multiple times but you still don't get it. Really incredible, my guy.

    Sports. Washing.

    Money is irrelevant. Do you even know what that word means?

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  • brettWall
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    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

    No, I'm pointing out that the point of Saudi involvement isn't to make money. You still haven't looked up sportswashing yet? You are stuck on something that's completely irrelevant, I'm guessing because you're so poor that the mindset doesn't even compute for you.

    If you're even asking if he's making a financial profit on the events you're missing the entire point. Until you get past that, you'll never even have a chance of understanding.
    He can't answer a simple question. That says a lot and you can tell why he's got this everything about Turki is free mentality.

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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    Originally posted by brettWall
    You made it all sound like Turki Alalshikh's fights are free for everyone to pirate. They're still marketed as PPV fights for $40 in the US. Which means you still have to make a transaction online and be given a receipt as proof and permission to watch it. How much have you spent for these fights so far?
    No, I'm pointing out that the point of Saudi involvement isn't to make money. You still haven't looked up sportswashing yet? You are stuck on something that's completely irrelevant, I'm guessing because you're so poor that the mindset doesn't even compute for you.

    If you're even asking if he's making a financial profit on the events you're missing the entire point. Until you get past that, you'll never even have a chance of understanding.

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  • brettWall
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    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

    And yet there's so many people that still don't seem to understand that.
    You made it all sound like Turki Alalshikh's fights are free for everyone to pirate. They're still marketed as PPV fights for $40 in the US. Which means you still have to make a transaction online and be given a receipt as proof and permission to watch it. How much have you spent for these fights so far?

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  • tomhawq
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    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07
    And yet there's so many people that still don't seem to understand that.
    I have already mentioned the answer to this in post#37 of page 4, which is the one you cut.

    "Even if the objective is not monetary gain, doesn't anyone or his own people want to know what the viewership # is; how many people he's reaching for whatever message he's delivering? TV shows and non PPVs are measured in ratings, which may have different reasons, but similar objectives."

    I don't know about you but I for one am interested in the numbers, just to see comparisons whether the other platform is truly honest in their reporting of ppv numbers.​

    How about giving your own estimate on Turki's ppv numbers from past fights? Can you do that? Just ballpark figures in the US.

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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    Originally posted by tomhawq
    Let's stop repeating what is already given. He's not in it for the money. We already know that.
    And yet there's so many people that still don't seem to understand that.

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  • tomhawq
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    Originally posted by Bullrider
    PPVs in America are expensive, $80 - $90, and they're only selling the main card. While Turki is selling the entire card for only $39.95. Huge difference.

    So I'm interested in Turki's ppv outcome in America. If the numbers are small, so what? At least they're not fake and pulled out of average joe's ass.
    It shows some sectors of the media, fans, youtubers, apologists, are only interested in manufacturing ppv numbers when it comes to PBC fights despite the fact that they're pricier and not affordable to many people. All the rest are neither worth watching nor paying for despite being cheaper. To me 100K is even hard to achieve in this day and age of mass cheating.​
    Look at how people on Youtube and social media can lie casually:

    "FINALLY $150M CONTRACT SIGNED" Crawford vs Canelo MEGA fight CONFIRMED!


    "CONTRACT SIGN DONE FOR $500M" Crawford vs Canelo Unbelievable 2025 Showdown...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ydjKbVSUQ​

    These were posted a month ago. They keep doing it even when already proven wrong, and in these cases nothing is signed yet. The numbers themselves are egregious.

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  • Bullrider
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    Originally posted by tomhawq
    Very true. Even if the objective is not monetary gain, doesn't anyone or his own people want to know what the viewership is;
    how many people he's reaching for whatever message he's delivering?
    TV shows and non PPVs are gauge in ratings, which may have different but similar objective -- attract viewers.

    Let's stop repeating what is already given. He's not in it for the money. We already know that.
    PPVs in America are expensive, $80 - $90, and they're only selling the main card. While Turki is selling the entire card for only $39.95. Huge difference.

    So I'm interested in Turki's ppv outcome in America. If the numbers are small, so what? At least they're not fake and pulled out of average joe's ass.



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