Comments Thread For: Stephen Espinoza: Jaron Ennis not at fault for Vergil Ortiz Jnr fallout

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Tell me who? These fighters are all MUCH more accomplished fighters than Boots,,including Virgil. IMO, Zayas is 50/50 fight with Boots and Boots only beating a washed up Spence Jr @ 147 or 154.

Being a more accomplished fighter does not guarantee a victory over an opponent. There are many examples, but I'll just list 3. Sugar Shane vs Oscar, Vernon Forrest vs Sugar Shane and Mayorga vs Vernon Forrest.

Even though I stated that you would disagree, which you obviously are disagreeing, I stand by MY OPINION on Boots' talent and how he'll fare against the talent at 147 and 154. You're entitled to YOUR OPINION just as much as I am of mine.

You might be right or you might be wrong, but the only way of truly knowing is if they met in the ring. As of right now, it doesn't seem likely to happen on account of Boots deciding to stay at 147...

[BrankoB]

‘It’s not something that we’re going to do now’: Eddie Hearn responds to accusations of Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis ducking Vergil Ortiz
Eddie Hearn says Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis wants the chance to realize his dreams at 147 before moving up to face Vergil Ortiz and others at 154.
By Wil Esco@wil_esco Dec 5, 2024, 5:21pm EST

Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn spent some time talking to Fight Hype about the latest news in the boxing world of Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis supposedly turning down an offer to fight against Vergil Ortiz.

Hearn admits that there was an offer for Boots to face Ortiz at 154 but that Boots had very little time to consider the offer and instead let his wishes be known that he preferred to remain at 147 for a title unification, reasoning that he never had the chance to beat an actual world champion in the ring thus far. Here’s some of what Hearn had to say on the subject below. Hearn on the rumors of Boots turning down an opportunity to fight Ortiz and being called a duck for it


“I think it’s been built up a little bit more than what it is. I’ll tell you, it’s quite simple. After his last fight he said in the the ring ‘I may move up to 154, I need a little bit of time,’ blah, blah, blah. We started talking about the landscape, we’ve made a lot of offers to guys at 147 to unify against Boots. We also spoke to (Alalshikh) about the potential for an Ortiz against Boots fight.

“When we received the initial offer it was at 147 lbs, which surprised me. I went back to those guys to double check and then they confirmed, no, it was at 154. I then spoke to Boots and said you need to make a decision, are we moving to ‘54 or are we staying to unify at 147. And he sort of said to me ‘well how long do I got to make a decision,’ I said ‘about 24 hours, 48 hours.’ And he said ‘I want to unify at 147, that’s what I want to do.’

“So I know that everybody loves that fight but whilst it’s in a different weight class, it’s not something that we’re going to do now, you will see Boots in a massive fight at 147 next. You can take this to the bank, he will not be moving to 154 and fighting somebody else. We had to make a decision then and there about what he wants to do next and his decision was to stay and unify at 147. That’s what will happen next.

“I think it got blown a little bit out of proportion and I was honest in that when we received the offer it was at 147. It wasn’t what I believed was the case so when I went back a couple of days later they confirmed it was at 154 and then Boots had to make a decision quite quickly ‘do you want to give up your belt or do you want to move up to ‘54?’ And he said ‘I want to unify.’ So you will see him in a unification next.”

On what his personal preference for Boots was for his next move

“I want to see him unify, if I’m honest. The frustration has been we couldn’t make the unification before and he had to fight Chukhadzhian. Ideally we would’ve unified then and I think if we’d done that I think he would’ve potentially taken the fight against Ortiz. I love the fight against Ortiz — so does Boots by the way. I think style-wise, everything, it’s a great matchup. But when he tells me he wants to stay at ‘47 to unify, I can’t blame him for that and it’s not like he wants to stay at ‘47 to take an easy fight.

“He’s up for anybody in the division but I just feel like — you know what he said to me, he said ‘the reality is I never really won a championship at 147.’ He said ‘I won the interim title then upgraded me to full champion.’ He said ‘so I’m yet to fight a champion at 147 and that’s what I really want to do.’ So when the fighter tells me that, I respect it.

“I don’t mind the decision. I would’ve loved him to be part of a Riyadh Season card and we planned for Boots to be on a Riyadh Season card with (Alalshikh) but it would involve him vacating his title and moving up and he’s not going to do that. So once he decides he’s not going to do that, the fight’s not really there.

“He’s a bit disappointed with the (fan) reaction because if it was a defense of his 147 (title) or if he was a 154 fighter and he turned it down, I think you’d have a lot of grounds to give him criticism. But whilst it’s not his weight class, it’s a simple decision...if he moves to ‘54 the Ortiz fight, for me, is the perfect fight for Boots.

“I need to bounce back with something big for Boots, because if we’re going to turn down Ortiz and make this decision, we better deliver something that the fans go ‘fair.’ And I promise you when we make our decision you guys will turn around and go ‘alright, we wanted to see the Ortiz fight but we get it and this is a great fight.”

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Plain and simple truth is obvious and does not need to be defended. Writing long stories and articles, giving convoluted interviews to cover up a lie is also plain and obvious and impossible to cover up and defend. Anyone boxing enthusiast with half a brain can see through all this pr spin for what it is.

[BrankoB]

Being a more accomplished fighter does not guarantee a victory over an opponent. There are many examples, but I'll just list 3. Sugar Shane vs Oscar, Vernon Forrest vs Sugar Shane and Mayorga vs Vernon Forrest.

Even though I stated that you would disagree, which you obviously are disagreeing, I stand by MY OPINION on Boots' talent and how he'll fare against the talent at 147 and 154. You're entitled to YOUR OPINION just as much as I am of mine.

You might be right or you might be wrong, but the only way of truly knowing is if they met in the ring. As of right now, it doesn't seem likely to happen on account of Boots deciding to stay at 147...

Too true. I was sure that Oscar was going to beat Shane Mosley and I was also sure that Vernon Forrest was going to beat Mayorga. In fact when push comes to shove I also thought that Sugar Shane would beat Forrest. In other words, I was wrong before the fight each and every time.

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Too true. I was sure that Oscar was going to beat Shane Mosley and I was also sure that Vernon Forrest was going to beat Mayorga. In fact when push comes to shove I also thought that Sugar Shane would beat Forrest. In other words, I was wrong before the fight each and every time.

Right there with you Good Sir. I lost money on those fights and learned that no victory is a sure thing until the victor's hand is raised by the ref....

[Curtis2]

Being a more accomplished fighter does not guarantee a victory over an opponent. There are many examples, but I'll just list 3. Sugar Shane vs Oscar, Vernon Forrest vs Sugar Shane and Mayorga vs Vernon Forrest.

Even though I stated that you would disagree, which you obviously are disagreeing, I stand by MY OPINION on Boots' talent and how he'll fare against the talent at 147 and 154. You're entitled to YOUR OPINION just as much as I am of mine.

You might be right or you might be wrong, but the only way of truly knowing is if they met in the ring. As of right now, it doesn't seem likely to happen on account of Boots deciding to stay at 147...

Opinions are nice, everyone has some, I prefer facts. The world of professional boxing equates accomplishments to dollars. Realizing every 154 potential opponent for Boots I listed to you would be the oddsmakers favorites over Boots except Zayas-50/50 fight. You didn't provide your opinion on which one Boots would win against @154?
Here's another fact for you. Boot's calling out T.Crawford some time ago clarifies how fake he is. Boots understands he can't $$$ afford to be matched with an elite level, accomplished fighter as T.Crawford but still calls him out. Facts are, Boots just doesn't want career changing opportunities exemplified by passing on Virgil, unlike when Danny Garcia vs Lucas Matthysse and T.Crawford vs Jeff Horn, right after Horn won over one of the most accomplished-legend Manny Pacquiao.
Here's another fact I truly believe. Eddie Hearn didn't do his job in convincing Boots to take the Virgil fight. Think about that, if Eddie did his job by confidently convincing Boots to take the fight and Boots wins, Eddie wins by having a much more accomplished Boots and future bouts for Boots or, Eddie has the same confidence in Boots winning vs Virgil as Boots shown in himself???

[LarryMerchant'sBottle]

Opinions are nice, everyone has some, I prefer facts. The world of professional boxing equates accomplishments to dollars. Realizing every 154 potential opponent for Boots I listed to you would be the oddsmakers favorites over Boots except Zayas-50/50 fight. You didn't provide your opinion on which one Boots would win against @154?
Here's another fact for you. Boot's calling out T.Crawford some time ago clarifies how fake he is. Boots understands he can't $$$ afford to be matched with an elite level, accomplished fighter as T.Crawford but still calls him out. Facts are, Boots just doesn't want career changing opportunities exemplified by passing on Virgil, unlike when Danny Garcia vs Lucas Matthysse and T.Crawford vs Jeff Horn, right after Horn won over one of the most accomplished-legend Manny Pacquiao.
Here's another fact I truly believe. Eddie Hearn didn't do his job in convincing Boots to take the Virgil fight. Think about that, if Eddie did his job by confidently convincing Boots to take the fight and Boots wins, Eddie wins by having a much more accomplished Boots and future bouts for Boots or, Eddie has the same confidence in Boots winning vs Virgil as Boots shown in himself???

But until a fight has actually happened, OPINIONS on what the results will be are all we really have. As to my opinion on who Boots would win against at 154, I'm sure you'll disagree and that's fine, we differ on OPINIONS. My opinion is that Boots beats everyone on your list except Bohachuk and Murtazaliev.

If you prefer facts, I'll share some with you. Sugar Shane vs Oscar, Vernon Forrest vs Sugar Shane and Mayorga vs Vernon Forrest. These are fights that were won by the least accomplished boxer and the betting favorite lost. FACTS....

As for Eddie and Boots. Boots made it clear that he and he alone is the only true source, when it comes to who he is or isn't fighting, or thinking about fighting. His statement leads me to believe that Eddie can't convince Boots to take any freaking fight. Boots and Boots alone is the sole reason why a fight with Virgil wasn't made, he obviously didn't want to fight him. This is only my opinion, of coarse.

[jqSide]

So what's your personal conclusion? Care to elaborate the parts you highlighted?

‘It’s not something that we’re going to do now’: Eddie Hearn responds to accusations of Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis ducking Vergil Ortiz
Eddie Hearn says Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis wants the chance to realize his dreams at 147 before moving up to face Vergil Ortiz and others at 154.
By Wil Esco@wil_esco Dec 5, 2024, 5:21pm EST

Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn spent some time talking to Fight Hype about the latest news in the boxing world of Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis supposedly turning down an offer to fight against Vergil Ortiz.

Hearn admits that there was an offer for Boots to face Ortiz at 154 but that Boots had very little time to consider the offer and instead let his wishes be known that he preferred to remain at 147 for a title unification, reasoning that he never had the chance to beat an actual world champion in the ring thus far. Here’s some of what Hearn had to say on the subject below. Hearn on the rumors of Boots turning down an opportunity to fight Ortiz and being called a duck for it

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[Bronx2245]

That’s a lot of quoting just to realize that Boots is full of chit

Not quotes, it's called an article.

[Bronx2245]

So what's your personal conclusion? Care to elaborate the parts you highlighted?

My conclusion is Boots does not want smoke at 154 (Which is still a DUCK), and Eddie has no plan on how to get him fights @ 147! Shameful!

[MulaKO]

Not quotes, it's called an article.

The way it was pasted looked like select quotes from an article
Boots is still full of chit
Wouldn't you agree ???