James Toney vs ?

[IronDanHamza]

Stop dancing around the fact that Joshua's comp isn't even Michael Nunn level.

Ok but Micheal Nunn is a middleweight. We are talking about Heavyweight here where Toney's resume is total garbage in general and definitely in comparison to Joshua's.

What Toney did outside of HW is irrelevant to the discussion.

Joshua hit dude, dude hit him back and Joshua was floundering around the ring.

Bro was doing the Zab Judah dance

Again, not an argument because James Toney was easily beaten by actual unranked journeyman in his prime multiple times. AJ's loss's have only been to Top 10 ranked contenders and/or reigning champions. So that same critique you are using for AJ can be used the other way around but even worse.

Secondly, Ruiz is 10x the Heavyweight Toney is and would beat him easily so that's not an argument either.

[SUBZER0ED]

Prime James Toney was a MW. Toney @ HW is such because he ballooned up like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade float. While he is a highly-skilled fighter, to give him a chance vs prime top HWs when he was prime is sketchy. To give him a chance against them in his HW state of disgust is folly.

[djtmal]

What Toney did outside of HW is irrelevant to the discussion.

Dude. It absolutely is relevant.

First off, Toney is a friggen middleweight, p4p #1 there, who climbed all the way up to heavy and actually beat guys he shouldn't have but did with skills, brains and guts.

Who the f*** is doing that now.

You sitting here comparing a Toney who was already shopworn by the time he got to heavy to dudes who spent their whole career there.

Even the playing field and make Toney a natural heavy, with that old school style, and that whole list can lose.

Outside of Big George

[djtmal]

Ok but Micheal Nunn is a middleweight.

Yeah. So. And....

Name a fighter that Tua or Joshua beat that had Nunn like boxing skills.

[IronDanHamza]

Dude. It absolutely is relevant.

First off, Toney is a friggen middleweight, who climbed all the way up to heavy and actually beat guys he shouldn't have but did with skills, brains and guts.

You sitting here comparing a Toney who was already shopworn by the time he got to heavy to dudes who spent their whole career there.

Even the playing field and make Toney a natural heavy, with that old school style, and that whole list can lose.

It's literally not relevant. It couldn't be less relevant. We are talking about HW match ups, so, Middleweight match ups are IRRELEVANT.

You are actually trying to suggest that beating Micheal Nunn, a fight he was being totally dominated in for 10 rounds by the way, has any kind of bearing on how he'd do at HW vs elite HW's. It's got to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard, even from your pea brained, retarded standard.

Monzon beats AJ because he beat Emile Griffith? What's next? Pacquaio beats AJ because he beat Marco Antonio Barrera? Chocolaitito beats AJ because he beat Estrada? It's out and out moronic.

Toney did NOTHING at HW. He beat NO ONE and failed to beat lesser fighters than AJ consistently at that weight class. That's the fact of the matter. There is zero evidence to suggest he could be competitive with a Top HW let alone beat them.

[djtmal]

It's literally not relevant. It couldn't be less relevant. We are talking about HW match ups, so, Middleweight match ups are IRRELEVANT.

Then why the f**k would you put a guy who spent his prime years at mw, smw, and lhvy in against heavyweights.

Fighters who are clearly too big and strong for him.

It must be his skillset. Which most of those Eurobums don't have over James I don't give a f**k what little cute analogy you use

The bitchkos (as Toney referred to them as)
Joshua
Fury
Even Lennox before he got with Steward and got some real schooling.

Prime Toney p4p, all things being equal, would eat those cats for lunch.

They too slow, too methodical, too predictable. Too f**king primitive.

They just would get grossly schooled.

Those cats were in the instructional league, while Toney was in the majors from day one.

If make you miss and make you pay was a name, James Toney would have the copyright.

You see how a shopworn Toney took that cruiser Eurobum Jirov to school same thing at heavy

[djtmal]

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You are actually trying to suggest that beating Micheal Nunn, a fight he was being totally dominated in for 10 rounds by the way, has any kind of bearing on how he'd do at HW vs elite HW's.

Ab so f**king lutely.

That speaks to the level of competition he was fighting over those Eurobums you think are better.

Michael Nunn was a complete fighter. Long, rangy, could outbox/go toe to toe with anybody plus had one punch ko power.

James put him to sleep wtf are you talking about.

[IronDanHamza]

Then why the f**k would you put a guy who spent his prime years at mw, smw, and lhvy in against heavyweights.

Because that's what the thread is about you retard

The bitchkos (as Toney referred to them as)
Joshua
Fury
Even Lennox before he got with Steward and got some real schooling.

Prime Toney p4p, all things being equal, would eat those cats for lunch.

They too slow, too methodical, too predictable. They just would get grossly schooled.

If make you miss and make you pay was a name, James Toney would have the copyright.

You see how a shopworn Toney took that cruiser Eurobum Jirov to school same thing at heavy

Oh yeah like how he "schooled" Tiberi, Williams and Thadzi in his prime

Only in fantasy land does James Toney "school" elite fighters. It never happened once in his actual career and in reality he was beaten easily by unranked journeyman IN HIS PRIME.

Yet you are actually trying to argue that he has any kind of chance against like the likes of AJ, Fury, Klitschko's and Lennox Lewis The same guy he can't even beat the likes of Sam Peter and a shot Hasim Rahman.

He doesn't win a round against anyone you mentioned. Never showed in his career a single time that he has the capability to do that.

[IronDanHamza]

Ab so f**king lutely.

That speaks to the level of competition he was fighting over those Eurobums you think are better.

Michael Nunn was a complete fighter. Long, rangy, could outbox/go toe to toe with anybody plus had one punch ko power.

James put him to sleep wtf are you talking about.

He was dominated by Nunn for 10 rounds.

And Nunn is a Middleweight. Not sure if you're aware.

AJ flattens Nunn in 30 seconds.

[djtmal]

He was dominated by Nunn for 10 rounds.

Nunn lost by ko, and so would your boy Joshua, all things being equal.

He wouldn't know what hit him.