James Toney vs ?

[elfag]

its been a long time since i watched him. he had good stamina at cruiser but was sloppy at heavy with no power there. he had no business at heavy and really just went there so his fat ass didnt have to cut anymore. he was better when he forced himself to stay in weight.


was watching him with rahman. actually would rather see AJ-Rahman that would be good. would rahman crack his jaw

[IronDanHamza]

Gtfoh he was p4p #1 in one of boxings best eras

Yeah....

You understand that wasn't at HW though right?

HW Toney doesn't crack the Top 30 of any other era. You know that, right?

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah it is Joshua is a bum and nobody in their right mind would say that about Toney

Well no AJ isn't a "bum". That's just a dumb thing to say.

No unified world champion with numerous wins over Top 10 ranked opponents is a "bum.

So that's just a moronic, non-argument.

[IronDanHamza]

This bum never even beat somebody on Holyfields skill level

He proved he was the top bum of all the bums he fought

Holyfield's corpse, you dumb fuck.

You can't actually be insinuating that Toney has a better HW resume than AJ?

[IronDanHamza]

Yes you can Ruiz came out of nowhere literally and beat the brakes off this bum. Holy Bowe Ali Big George wasn't getting beat up by no out of shape guy like that ever

Well no, you can't because like I said Toney lost to actual unranked journeyman, IN HIS PRIME, multiple times.

So you can't use AJ losing to a Top 10 ranked contender as a reason why he'd lose to Toney.

Not sure if you're grasping that.

And again, Ruiz is 10x the HW Toney is so it doesn't work from any angle you try to.

[IronDanHamza]

I guess my first question should be do you think Daniel Dubois is a fighter that would have competed in the same HW era as Toney? Would he be holding a belt? I think you will agree not a chance in hell and that shows you the level of these current fighters at Heavyweight

The only 2 at HW that you can even begin to call good fighters are Usyk and Fury the rest would have barely made top 10 in previous generations

Before Fury took the belts back the heavyweight champion was a guy who didn't start boxing until he was what 20? Zero skills and only power and yet he flattened half the top 10 that's how bad it is

Er, yeah I do.

What are you saying here, that Toney's HW "era" is better than this one? Because it's not. At worst it's the same level but realistically it's worse.

John Ruiz was champion in that "era". You think Daniel Dubious couldn't beat John Ruiz? He flattens John Ruiz.

Still doesn't really address what was said.

On what basis could you possibly have the opinion that Toney could beat AJ at HW? What did he do for you to think that is in any way remotely possible?

[djtmal]

Well no, you can't because like I said

Well yes I can because I don't give a f**k about what you said

My observation is, out of the list of fighters, the two weakest was Tua and Joshua

Toney could school both

[IronDanHamza]

Well yes I can because I don't give a f**k about what you said

My observation is, out of the list of fighters, the two weakest was Tua and Joshua

Toney could school both

Don't get emotional now you fat cunt.

Your "observations" are not based on reality.

You can't even understand the difference between weight classes you're that brain dead.

Toney didn't "school" ANY top level fighter in his entire career. Let alone at heavyweight where he can't even beat the likes of Sam Peter on two attempts or a finished Hasim Rahman.

Yet in your warped reality, he "schools" AJ Toney did NOTHING in his entire career to suggest he could "school" AJ. Nothing.

Go and get your siblings of parents to log you off their computer you moron. You're embarrassing yourself.

[djtmal]

Your "observations" are not based on reality.

Ha.

Joshua is a mental midget. It doesn't get any more real than that.

He must be your cousin or something why you caping for him so hard

[IronDanHamza]

Ha.

Joshua is a mental midget. It doesn't get any more real than that.

He must be your cousin or something why you caping for him so hard

Not sure if you can read you inbred, but I've told you I am the furthest thing from a fan of AJ. I actively do not like, and do not rate the guy highly.

But he is objectively a top, elite HW of his era, unified champion with a list of impressive wins over Top ranked HW's. As opposed to Toney who has zero and has never shown he could beat a top HW.

That's just the reality of it. Toney at HW is garbage. Can't beat the likes of Peter and Rahman, or anyone for that matter. In what was easily the worst HW era there's ever been.

Yet in your bizarro world reality he somehow beats AJ Yeah, no. Not in actual reality.