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  • #41
    Couple of flaws in your argument I need to point out. Turki is not a trillionaire or billionaire. He is a millionaire (still more than me). It is not Turki's money but it is the money of the State of Saudi Arabia Investment fund. That means The King controls that money not the Turkster. And I'm mad at anyone that comes into America and makes a chitty situation even chittier and I don't care what his name is. How would the people in the UK feel if NBC ABC CBS and Netflix did a joint venture and signed all the Premier league teams and moved their games to American football stadiums and called it Ame-RI-YADH season. And fans like me told the UK fans "it's better they play in America than not at all". That wouldn't go over to well in THE JOLLY 'OL would it?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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      What are we doing “selling” them all that military warfare that’s now in the hundreds of billions?
      The same thing drug dealers "selling" users all those drugs now in the hundreds of billions. Do you think the crack dealers thought of the crack heads as their "allies"?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Elheath View Post
        Ideally they get all of US egos on Amazon Prime and make it worthy enough that Amazon is willing to make it free for all Prime subscribers instead of PPV. I mean, it is already free in the other side of the other pond, why not USA too?
        No Prime will never get rid of PPV just like anyone else who thought they could CREATE AN APP TO MONOPOLIZE BOXING AND CLAIM PPV IS DEAD. Do we know anyone like that class? Bueller??? Bueller???? I didn't think so. America is home of the capitalist PIG and when they smell a dollar they're actually looking for five. Amazon will sell Canelo, Tank, Spence and Ryan on PPV just like everyone else

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Elheath View Post
          IF they decide to put their hatred behind and agree to folk dance around Amazon Prime together then it will be great, but I won't celebrate until it happens. The PPV will still be high because Amazon isn't paying ****s to PBC, but atleast it is one entity which is a start, something that hasn't happened in decades.
          And that may turn out to be a good thing that Amazon didn't give PBC a budget. ESPN will not be giving Top Rank a budget after 2025. HBO and Showtime stopped giving out boxing budgets. Oscar and GBP are on a fight by fight basis with Dazn and they don't have a budget. And after Eddie Hearn blew through 6 billion dollars of the Russian's money he no longer gets a budget from them. That's why Hearn had to go suck sand dyck from the Iron Shiek becuase his company was all but finished if he didn't. But you see Turki was already instructed to cut off shows in America and limit them to Saudi Arabia. So hopefully someone will stick a POW-POW to the heads of Haymon, Arum and Oscar and force them to join and do business because whether they like it or not THEY ALL THEY GOT!!!!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Elheath View Post
            Under the "recent" ie last 2-3 years tab of fights involving notable American boxers...who's fault does the following not happening fall under (in no particular order)?
            1) Canelo vs Benavides at 168
            2) Crawford vs Jermell at 154
            3) Fulton vs MJ for 122 undisputed (I certainly wanted to see it in 2022 before Inoue moving up and MJ losing to Tapales)
            4) Tank vs Teo or Haney for 135 undisputed/unification/etc
            5) Teo vs Subriel Matias (it was wanted until he lost to Paro which was unrelated to Turki) at 140.
            6) Crawford vs Boots at 147 (they had more than enough time together to make it happen before Turki mattered)
            None of those happened prior to Turki and none of those looks to happen in the future anymore regardless of Turki. Unless you are blaming sleazy Eddie/DAZN's faults on Turki too before Turki existed.

            By the way, who do you think Crawford would've fought in 2024 if not for Turki overpaying him to fight the unknown Madrimov for the 154 belt? I have a bad feeling he may not have fought at all if not for the overpay, seeing Spence these days.
            Correct sir! those fights you're referring to are making my point.
            1) Canelo vs Benny at 168 didn't happen because Dazn gave Canelo the option to act like a diva
            2) Crawford vs Jermell same thing because Dazn gave him the option to fight Madrivov instead of signing with PBC
            3) Fulton vs MJ NOT because MJ is on "Dazn island" and their fighters don't fight on PBC shows
            4)Tank vs Teo/Haney because Arum wasn't going to give Tank a chance just like Al didn't give Bud a chance while he was with TR
            5) Subriel could've signed with TR or resign to PBC. He went with Dazn and MR treated his Puerto rican azz like an African not a Spainard
            6) because Boots fights at WW and Bud moved up to JMW and I think weight classes are still valid in the sport of boxing

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Elheath View Post
              Maybe Shakur is hoping Eddie will let him fight Andy Cruz if he wants the Riyadh money then, because looking at the WBC rankings it is:
              1) Vacant (Zepeda became interim then fled for injury)
              2) Muratalla (Top Rank, will be probably going IBF route)
              3) Keyshawn (Top Rank, all rumors point to him fighting Berinchyk next for WBO belt)
              4) Pitbull (PBC, already slated for PBC card under Benavides-Morrell next February)
              5) De Los Santos rematch (hahahahaha very funny /s)
              6) Andy Cruz (Matchroom)

              Or he's willing to not fight at Riyadh and instead fight Zepeda on March somewhere else.
              But I will concede the point on this one and I have called for this too. Shakur and Andy Cruz are both at MR and at 135. They are both Olympians so there is a good story there. No reason at all they shouldnt fight in 2025

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Elheath View Post
                Which reminds me, what are the big stacked cards held in America this year that had zero Turki influnce/money involved?
                America is not going to do a card with ten main events. That is very ****** business to do such

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by DClefthook View Post

                  America is not going to do a card with ten main events. That is very ****** business to do such
                  Doesn't have to be 10 main events, but one that even had atleast 3-4 matches fans actually wanted making the crazy price worth it?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by DClefthook View Post

                    Correct sir! those fights you're referring to are making my point.
                    1) Canelo vs Benny at 168 didn't happen because Dazn gave Canelo the option to act like a diva
                    2) Crawford vs Jermell same thing because Dazn gave him the option to fight Madrivov instead of signing with PBC
                    3) Fulton vs MJ NOT because MJ is on "Dazn island" and their fighters don't fight on PBC shows
                    4)Tank vs Teo/Haney because Arum wasn't going to give Tank a chance just like Al didn't give Bud a chance while he was with TR
                    5) Subriel could've signed with TR or resign to PBC. He went with Dazn and MR treated his Puerto rican azz like an African not a Spainard
                    6) because Boots fights at WW and Bud moved up to JMW and I think weight classes are still valid in the sport of boxing
                    Correct me if I'm wrong but are you basically trying to say that boxers of Ammmurika (and Mexico) should've all bowed down and signed with PBC because Lord Haymon is Promoter God and boxers must abide to what his greed wanted under his rules, and they would've been forced to do so if not for DAZN exposing PBC's cheapness, and they would be an American Empire now?

                    Seeing the lack of anything they seem to be doing these days I feel like the boxers dodged a bullet. Top Rank has been underwhelming as well but they are atleast fighting a tad more than annual PBC. If PBC and Top Rank and Oscar had the willingness to work together they would've had no issue even if Eddie wanted to be the big boy from Europe. If anything DAZN and Turki seems to finally lit enough urgency to make Haymon willing to consider sharing platform with Bob and eventually Oscar.

                    Granted for me, the final "winner" being Prime or DAZN doesn't change as long as worst case they all can unite in one platform, because in the end they both are online PPV streamers and push come to shove I'll take a fight actually happening in middle of nowhere aka Saudi and watching online over hoping for a fight to occur in USA for 5 years overmarinating until they both are over 35 yrs old.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Groin Grabber View Post
                      Smfh this boy


                      Typical thug
                      Everytime I see you on a post I'm going to remind you of what a low life, small Vienna sausage having, racist, scary hiding behind screen, won't say it to face, sick pd file you are! Go take a long walk in the ocean!
                      DClefthook DClefthook likes this.

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