Comments Thread For: Brian Norman Jnr believes it would be "night-night" if he catches Jaron Ennis the way Karen Chukhadzhian caught him

[Jsrr]

Oh look it’s my biggest fan. Ya against an easy win fight. Brian Norman is 23 and already accomplished more in the sport than booty ennis. He just won his title and is pretty unknown to most in the sport. In his first fight since winning Eddie offered him 1.2M to unify. Why would any sane person accept that offer? He’s making 200k to fight nobodies. He’s 23. Why would he take a cash out fight at that age? If fast Eddie wants him to take such a risk at 23 and after he just won the belt at least compensate the kid properly. And hey….when’s Spence/fundora happening bro? Heheheheh

Yo I'm no Ennis fan....like at all and think he is over hyped, but to claim that Norman has accomplished more in the sport than Ennis is crazy!
Ennis has KO's over Lipinets, Clayton, Villa, and Avanesyan. The ONLY opponent on Norman's record that even has a Wikipedia page is Santillan!
The offer that Matchroom gave him was $1.7 million.
Defending his belt for $200k against nobody's is no way to get your name out there and demand more $.

He's going to end up having to fight his mandatory, Giyasav in 2025 for chump change in a fight he may as well loose or risk getting stripped VS. Unifying vs Ennis first for almsot $2 million.

[SugarAnt05]

Turned down a fight with Ennis and now you talking. What a joke

[Elheath]

Yo I'm no Ennis fan....like at all and think he is over hyped, but to claim that Norman has accomplished more in the sport than Ennis is crazy!
Ennis has KO's over Lipinets, Clayton, Villa, and Avanesyan. The ONLY opponent on Norman's record that even has a Wikipedia page is Santillan!
The offer that Matchroom gave him was $1.7 million.
Defending his belt for $200k against nobody's is no way to get your name out there and demand more $.

He's going to end up having to fight his mandatory, Giyasav in 2025 for chump change in a fight he may as well loose or risk getting stripped VS. Unifying vs Ennis first for almsot $2 million.

Norman and his team probably thinks they can win against Giyasav and continue making low risk chump change while waiting for a better offer more than $1.7 mil to sell the belt, which isn't too farfetched of an idea IMO. Of course it could backfire on him, but in the end it is a gamble they were willing to bet on.

To be frank, despite Boots not looking great the last time I'd still say he's a definite win against Norman (regardless of what Norman himself says). Therefore Norman has every right to demand a huge overpay or just sit on it until the better combined offer comes.
Option 1) For one time payment of 1.7 million, lose the belt 100% on his first match after winning it then make even smaller chump change for the next few years until hopefully a chance for a title comes up again, or worst case be banished to oblivion of nothingness earning him 1.85 million in three years off the belt.
Option 2) Take 4~5 fights averaging 200k as the "A-side beltholder" against guys he has 10% risk of losing his belt for the next few years, and wait for someone easier than Boots to offer more than 2 million on an unification, earning him a total of 3 million in the same three years, while having a higher than 0% chance that he retains the belt.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Norman stopped a better fighter in Santillan than Boots has ever faced, and he did in style and brutally. Boots has fought a few guys who were good but they were way past it when Boots beat them (Lipinets, Ava). Norman beat a strong real contender in Santillan and he stopped him. Boots has not done that, he fights B level guys and is closing in on 30 with no signature wins.

Norman is 23 and the Boots fight is a toss up. Norman is a beltholder with a decisive signature victory against a top WW. Boots fans and Hearn want the world to believe that Boots is some kind of monster legend without having done s h i t. Apart from him apparently being great in sparring, in the ring he makes alot of bad decisions and his defense is bad. Santillan can punch. Norman took his best and stopped him.

No one knows Boots or Norman casually. Norman wanted an even split and he is correct. Boots hasn't earned s h i t. Boots may beat him, but Norman is a big step up from his normal comp. Why should Norman put his belt on the line for less than 50/50? Who the F is Boots apart from the hyped guy who just looked not great against Karen?

Boots fans are so assured of his coming dominance. It might happen. But unless Boots works on defense and ring IQ, he is going to get stopped and break alot of hearts. But let's not act like Boots is some major star because Breadman says he is king of the gym and that he has skills. He obviously has the physicality and power. But that won't mean much when he gets caught overreaching trying to prove he is the real deal.....then he wakes up on the canvas saying "huh? where am I?"

Hearn has been doing terribly lately. Mark my words, he does not want Boots in against real danger. And sure, Arum doesn't want Norman losing at 23 for less than 50/50 either. Hearn offered what he did knowing this. Boots and Hearn are the ones screaming unification. The real question is, if Boots is the unstoppable bogeyman.....why not make it 50/50 and let Boots show his legendary skills? Because Norman poses a real threat and Hearn knows exactly what it means if Boots gets embarrassed. Hearns has another loser on his hands.

[BrankoB]

I wish Norman would just fight Boots and put his money where his mouth is. The fight wouldn't be hard to make. Whoever wins this fight becomes the next household name.

Both of them have a long way to go to become a household name. My guess is neither one of them makes it past being well known to boxing fans like us on this forum.

Of all the champions in our sport, I am not sure we have more than 10 household names (if that) right now across all divisions.

[BlackRobb]

He already tried to fight Norman. But don't let facts get in your way.

If his puppetmaster (Eddie) really wanted him in with Norman Jr., he would have ponied up the extra $500k required to seal the deal. Instead, Eddie let a purse bid occur which he lost to the Germans, them paid the Germans several million to stage the Chakhudzian fight in Philly. Try to wrap your head around that if you can.

Boots is the greatest thing since the electric nose hair trimmer, yet his hyperbolic promoter who thinks so highly of him won't fight to win a purse bid for his mandatory. Can't make this sht up.

[Elheath]

Norman stopped a better fighter in Santillan than Boots has ever faced, and he did in style and brutally. Boots has fought a few guys who were good but they were way past it when Boots beat them (Lipinets, Ava). Norman beat a strong real contender in Santillan and he stopped him. Boots has not done that, he fights B level guys and is closing in on 30 with no signature wins.

Norman is 23 and the Boots fight is a toss up. Norman is a beltholder with a decisive signature victory against a top WW. Boots fans and Hearn want the world to believe that Boots is some kind of monster legend without having done s h i t. Apart from him apparently being great in sparring, in the ring he makes alot of bad decisions and his defense is bad. Santillan can punch. Norman took his best and stopped him.

No one knows Boots or Norman casually. Norman wanted an even split and he is correct. Boots hasn't earned s h i t. Boots may beat him, but Norman is a big step up from his normal comp. Why should Norman put his belt on the line for less than 50/50? Who the F is Boots apart from the hyped guy who just looked not great against Karen?

Boots fans are so assured of his coming dominance. It might happen. But unless Boots works on defense and ring IQ, he is going to get stopped and break alot of hearts. But let's not act like Boots is some major star because Breadman says he is king of the gym and that he has skills. He obviously has the physicality and power. But that won't mean much when he gets caught overreaching trying to prove he is the real deal.....then he wakes up on the canvas saying "huh? where am I?"

Hearn has been doing terribly lately. Mark my words, he does not want Boots in against real danger. And sure, Arum doesn't want Norman losing at 23 for less than 50/50 either. Hearn offered what he did knowing this. Boots and Hearn are the ones screaming unification. The real question is, if Boots is the unstoppable bogeyman.....why not make it 50/50 and let Boots show his legendary skills? Because Norman poses a real threat and Hearn knows exactly what it means if Boots gets embarrassed. Hearns has another loser on his hands.

I have a feeling that at this rate, the "Boots/Eddie refused to offer 50-50 op pony up an extra 500k on an unification fight HE desperately wanted against a very easy win beltholder and ended up with Karen 2" is going to join the same column as "Beltless Shakur refused the 25 split against undisputed Haney" in terms of fighters overvaluing himself and losing more money in the long run.

[LAchargers373]

Yo I'm no Ennis fan....like at all and think he is over hyped, but to claim that Norman has accomplished more in the sport than Ennis is crazy!
Ennis has KO's over Lipinets, Clayton, Villa, and Avanesyan. The ONLY opponent on Norman's record that even has a Wikipedia page is Santillan!
The offer that Matchroom gave him was $1.7 million.
Defending his belt for $200k against nobody's is no way to get your name out there and demand more $.

He's going to end up having to fight his mandatory, Giyasav in 2025 for chump change in a fight he may as well loose or risk getting stripped VS. Unifying vs Ennis first for almsot $2 million.

He’s 23 and he’s won just as many pro belts as ennis sorry to break the news to you lol. Ennis is 27 and won’t fight anyone but yall expect this 23 year old kid who as I said has one just as many belts as booty ennis should risk it all for not much money? He literally said if they add more money he’ll take the fight right away. If not why not wait he’s 23. Ennis NEEDS Norman jr. It’s not the other way around. No one needs ennis. He’s a hype job that’s never fought ppv has an email title and fights for matchroom. His next fights will be against barrios and Conor benn. That sound elite to you?

[TheOneAboveAll]

Point still stands boy

No, kid. Your nonsense point was that Norman beat Santillan because of a cut (not subtly implying that he was somehow lucky to win), when, in fact, Norman almost murdered him in the ring.

[Groin Grabber]

No, kid. Your nonsense point was that Norman beat Santillan because of a cut (not subtly implying that he was somehow lucky to win), when, in fact, Norman almost murdered him in the ring.

Because of the cut lmfao how you not getting it son?