Whose taking over when Canelo Retires?

[deathofaclown]

To be fair AJ and Fury fighting in front of bigger crowds doesn't equal world wide views. I still think Canelo is higher in that regards. Of course AJ and Fury would be massive in the UK. All of the UK tunes in. It's what happens living on an island. Fish bowl lifestyle. Easy to attach yourself to the biggest thing you got going on. It doesn't mean the entire world is following the same way the island does.

Canelo has crossed many boundaries in the sport over his years. He basically became a name facing Mayweather when he was what? 22 years old? Since then, eyes have been on him and he only got more and more popular with his wins.

Even so, I never felt he was this big worldwide star people make out because I know people in countries outside of the UK and America and he doesn't really move the needle anywhere else I don't think there's been absolute worldwide stars in boxing since Prime Mayweather and Pacquiao

After they retired or at least got old, I think boxing was desperate for a new star, so they just pinned it on Canelo but I don't think he was on the same level as them. His pay-per-view numbers were like 300,000 outside of the big fights like Golovkin, it's not really that good for a supposed biggest star.

[Bullrider]

I have no answer to this question.

[BustedKnuckles]

No one. Without HBO and Showtime out of the game it is very difficult to build any mainstream stars. They throw these young guys on PPV before anyone outside of hardcore boxing fans know who they are and wonder why the events don’t do numbers on PPV.

Boxing is in a bad spot and will be even more niche the next decade.

This is what I'm thinking too. Times have changed. It's just like how Mayweather (or whomever whatever you want to attribute this new boxing mentality to) changed a generation of young boxers' mentalities. Maybe it won't be the same again. Likewise, without weekly boxing for the masses, what chance is there that people will know and support andbody broadly? That age might just be gone. Maybe its just a boutique sport, important only to real fans and some infantile keyboard warriors stuck in their parents' basements, who think fanning a particular boxer gives them relevance in the world.

(That last part is just an observation of weird posters here, not you dude.)

[ELPacman]

Even so, I never felt he was this big worldwide star people make out because I know people in countries outside of the UK and America and he doesn't really move the needle anywhere else I don't think there's been absolute worldwide stars in boxing since Prime Mayweather and Pacquiao

After they retired or at least got old, I think boxing was desperate for a new star, so they just pinned it on Canelo but I don't think he was on the same level as them. His pay-per-view numbers were like 300,000 outside of the big fights like Golovkin, it's not really that good for a supposed biggest star.

I agree in that it was pinned on Canelo and that his career is no where close to the likes of Pacquiao and mayweather. Though Canelo was already being groomed early on to be the next best thing. He kept winning and in some cases spectacularly, so it was obvious who was becoming more and more the face as Pacquiao and mayweather faded into retirement.

[ELPacman]

This is what I'm thinking too. Times have changed. It's just like how Mayweather (or whomever whatever you want to attribute this new boxing mentality to) changed a generation of young boxers' mentalities. Maybe it won't be the same again. Likewise, without weekly boxing for the masses, what chance is there that people will know and support andbody broadly? That age might just be gone. Maybe its just a boutique sport, important only to real fans and some infantile keyboard warriors stuck in their parents' basements, who think fanning a particular boxer gives them relevance in the world.

(That last part is just an observation of weird posters here, not you dude.)

Nowadays, boxing has turned into a lottery sport. It only takes getting that 1 mega payday to set you up. You get it and you're out. Fighters don't have the same old school mentality to take on the boogyman and dare to be great. Not to mention, keep the fire burning inside no matter the success and money. It takes a rare recipe to continue for so long to be great.

I feel like Mayweather did it to prove haters wrong over and over, not to mention ego. Pacquiao did it to bring honor to his entire country as though they were on his back. Not to mention he genuinely loved the sport and to fight. (Listen to his latest interview with Radio Rahim in Saudi. He wants to face anyone at his weight and isn't scared of anyone, even Tank. He said he loves the sport and wants to continue).

That said, without the proper ingredients to come together in a fighter, we might never see another mayweather or Pacquiao ever again in our lifetime.

[TMLT87]

To be fair AJ and Fury fighting in front of bigger crowds doesn't equal world wide views. I still think Canelo is higher in that regards. Of course AJ and Fury would be massive in the UK. All of the UK tunes in. It's what happens living on an island. Fish bowl lifestyle. Easy to attach yourself to the biggest thing you got going on. It doesn't mean the entire world is following the same way the island does.

I dont think its just the UK though. When AJ, Fury (also Usyk) fight its on at a reasonable time for the entirety of Europe, Africa and parts of Asia. When Canelo fights its in the early hours of a Sunday morning for those places.

There hasnt been an inarguably global star in boxing since Floyd and Pac anyway, then Mike before that.