My idea for the next 5 vs 5.

[famicommander]

Why are you so embarrassingly emotional over such a none issue?

Emotional? What in god's name are you talking about? All I said was it's a dumb premise, and it is. Nobody cares who promotes fighters. It's not a team sport.

[IronDanHamza]

Emotional? What in god's name are you talking about? All I said was it's a dumb premise, and it is. Nobody cares who promotes fighters. It's not a team sport.

Oh, you know

Are you aware how accurately you fit your stereotype?

[famicommander]

Oh, you know

Are you aware how accurately you fit your stereotype?

You have no argument and now you're changing the subject because you know it's a dumb premise. Nobody bought that card because they were interested in the outcome of a pissing contest between two rich guys that weren't even in the ring. Casual boxing fans don't know who the promoters are and they don't have any fan loyalty to one over the other. If you asked 1000 random people who Frank Warren is none of them would be able to tell you.

[IronDanHamza]

You have no argument and now you're changing the subject because you know it's a dumb premise. Nobody bought that card because they were interested in the outcome of a pissing contest between two rich guys that weren't even in the ring. Casual boxing fans don't know who the promoters are and they don't have any fan loyalty to one over the other. If you asked 1000 random people who Frank Warren is none of them would be able to tell you.

It’s like you aren’t aware how badly you’re crying over something you apparently don’t care about

It plays into the storyline, some people like it, some people don’t care for it. Why are you crying about it?

We get it, you’re gay. That’s fine. You don’t need to live up the stereotype every day.

Just enjoy the show. I know you’re new to this boxing stuff but story lines are part of the fun.

[famicommander]

It’s like you aren’t aware how badly you’re crying over something you apparently don’t care about

It plays into the storyline, some people like it, some people don’t care for it. Why are you crying about it?

We get it, you’re gay. That’s fine. You don’t need to live up the stereotype every day.

Just enjoy the show. I know you’re new to this boxing stuff but story lines are part of the fun.

All I've done is repeatedly explain to you that this isn't a storyline anybody cares about. It's like organizing a card based on who drives the fighter's limos or who trains them or who their nutritionist is. It's irrelevant and these people are all just anonymous names to the people buying the fights. If you know enough about boxing to know which promoters ten random boxers are affiliated with you were already going to watch that card.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Out of curiosity, who is more famous between them and by how much? Not being sarcastic, just wondering because I don't personally know anyone living in UK.

My guess would be that Wilder is the known the most among UK boxing fans because of the amount of time his name was mentioned with Joshua and Fury.

I’d say Hearn is more famous than Warren, he’s always tried hard to market himself to the wider fanbase.

Wilder is a reasonably big name over here. I would say most casuals know who he is.

[Elheath]

I’d say Hearn is more famous than Warren, he’s always tried hard to market himself to the wider fanbase.

Wilder is a reasonably big name over here. I would say most casuals know who he is.

Kinda interesting that a promoter actually tries to market himself and not his fighters to a wider fanbase lol.

By the way in Japan the due to the huge influx of new/casual boxing fans who just started following in the last 5 years or so, the public recognition level of famous foreign boxers are quite skewed. Usyk and Crawford's names are known because their names almost always gets written along with Inoue in an article but their faces aren't shown so many don't even know which is black and which is the white guy. Mayweather is best known as the dude the kickboxer Tenshin Nasukawa did an exhibition over 5 years ago, and show them Canelo's picture in a suit without telling his name and the majority would probably assume he's a Sailor from Yokosuka Naval Base that came to watch boxing in Tokyo.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Kinda interesting that a promoter actually tries to market himself and not his fighters to a wider fanbase lol.

By the way in Japan the due to the huge influx of new/casual boxing fans who just started following in the last 5 years or so, the public recognition level of famous foreign boxers are quite skewed. Usyk and Crawford's names are known because their names almost always gets written along with Inoue in an article but their faces aren't shown so many don't even know which is black and which is the white guy. Mayweather is best known as the dude the kickboxer Tenshin Nasukawa did an exhibition over 5 years ago, and show them Canelo's picture in a suit without telling his name and the majority would probably assume he's a Sailor from Yokosuka Naval Base that came to watch boxing in Tokyo.

It’s been detrimental to him in recent years. His ego definitely gets in his own way. Without Sky’s backing he’s really struggling to create stars too.

Could Inoue vs Tenshin be a mega fight in Japan? I don’t think it’d be all that competitive but I get the feeling it could be like the Mayweather-McGregor of Japan.

[IronDanHamza]

All I've done is repeatedly explain to you that this isn't a storyline anybody cares about. It's like organizing a card based on who drives the fighter's limos or who trains them or who their nutritionist is. It's irrelevant and these people are all just anonymous names to the people buying the fights. If you know enough about boxing to know which promoters ten random boxers are affiliated with you were already going to watch that card.

Are you the judge and jury?

Your inflated sense of self importance is cringe worthy.

[Elheath]

It’s been detrimental to him in recent years. His ego definitely gets in his own way. Without Sky’s backing he’s really struggling to create stars too.

Could Inoue vs Tenshin be a mega fight in Japan? I don’t think it’d be all that competitive but I get the feeling it could be like the Mayweather-McGregor of Japan.

It is a rather hard topic. The greatest boxer in Japanese history ever vs the greatest kickboxer in Japanese history ever who converted to boxing who's both still young (enough) at age 31 vs age 26 now fighting in the same field (boxing). His popularity in a way is like a position where Cryan Garcia was before he lost, without the drug antics but a significantly better resume in another combat sport.

As a boxing match it won't be competitive at all, but as much as I personally don't like it, there is a reason why Tenshin's catchweight non-title match gets the semi-final match in a card sandwiched by multiple world title matches for a reason. Tenshin just got his regional WBO-AP on his last fight (yeah, not that impressive, but still a step necessary), and he's probably doing like 2 more step ups in the Spring and Summer and hoping for a world title match in the end of the year. Outside Inoue, he's probably the only other boxer in Japan that can fill 5 digit in arenas, and as crazy as it may sound if Yoshiki Takei (who's also a former kickboxer and rival of Tenshin that converted to boxing a few years prior) manages to keep his 118 WBO title until the end of next year, there is a legit possibility that Tenshin's first world title challenge will be against none other than Takei in Tokyo Dome. I mean, Tenshin already fought and filled Tokyo Dome against his eternal kickboxing rival Takeru for his last kickboxing match before converting, no reason he can't fill it with a bigger boxing boom going on now than before against another Japanese champion with background rivalry.

Takei's been fighting decent opposition but there is a reason Ohashi is absolutely not wanting to let Takei face a certain loss against Nakatani before that. In fact I'm sure the close Higa match gave him a near heartattack. Same reason Honda (Teiken) is not discussing Takei as a potential opponent for Nakatani, because he also wants to get a piece of the Tokyo Dome Tenshin-Takei.

Quite crazy that Inoue vs Nery this year was the first boxing match in Tokyo Dome in over 30 years since Tyson vs Douglass, but since then within 2-3 years span there is a possibility that they can have 3 more with Inoue vs Nakatani, Tenshin vs Takei, and Inoue vs Tenshin. No, if the last one occurs it definitely will not be competitive in any way but it is a financial dream scenario that still gets thrown around. If Tenshin gets a world title against Takei, the casuals will certainly flock to it.

In a way, I guess its like a Fury vs Joshua where at this point Fury will win 120% but the popularity of Joshua is high enough that Wembley will still be sold out?