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  • Fury vs Usyk was a higher skilled fight than Beterbiev vs Bivol

    Nash enjoyed both fights, but the skill level on display (by both men, it was a very close fight) in Fury vs Usyk superceded that of Beterbiev vs Bivol, and only bias against the (modern) heavyweight division will have people believing otherwise. Nash would go as far as to call it the best and most skilled fight of all time, that could only be bettered, in the near future at least, by the rematch. Fury's distractors only ramble on about his size, but he's actually far from optimum size, he's around 4 inches to tall for the ideal size HW, as being so tall takes away from further balance, agility, and speed he could have, of which, despite being on a slight decline (age/lifestyle), he still has in abundance.

    Usyk is a superior version of Bivol, and although Beterbiev is a great fighter, very technically sound, and a feared puncher, he does not have anywhere near the overall skillset of Tyson Fury. It's funny how Lennox Lewis can lose to two men, both by KO, that aren't fit to lace Dereck Chisora's boots, never mind Usyk's, and gets a pass, that every Mike Tyson loss is put down to him being passed his prime, and that Evan Fields (Evander Holyfield) can lose 100 fights and live like he's Walter White, and all get a pass, yet Fury, the man who dethroned prime Wlad, so much so in Wlad's backyard, he might as well have been fighting in his kitchen, then beat Wilder when nobody else could, and when Joshua and Hearn ran when Wilder put down $50 million on a table, goes on to lose a very close split-decision, in a fight that he dominated in spells between 4-7, and gets slaughtered.

    We need to put some respect on the name of these two ATG heavyweights. Not just Usyk, but Fury too, and mark the Great Nash's words, the Furious one is going to produce something very special in December. Nash out - His Excellency
    Last edited by Nash out; 10-16-2024, 10:46 AM.

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    I don't think you can get any higher technically than what we saw Saturday Night... Not a fight for the casual of course because nobody got destroyed and no one way ticket... The purists will remember that one for a long time... Probably the best technical fight of the year so far... Usyk/Fury was a great fight with some drama extras, but I don't think you can put the 2 fights on equal ground...

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    • #3
      Lmao, Fury is gonna get stopped in the rematch. You're going to see a mean Usyk.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Nash out View Post
        Nash enjoyed both fights, but the skill level on display (by both men, it was a very close fight) in Fury vs Usyk superceded that of Beterbiev vs Bivol, and only bias against the (modern) heavyweight division will have people believing otherwise. Nash would go as far as to call it the best and most skilled fight of all time, that could only be bettered, in the near future at least, by the rematch. Fury's distractors only ramble on about his size, but he's actually far from optimum size, he's around 4 inches to tall for the ideal size HW, as being so tall takes away from further balance, agility, and speed he could have, of which, despite being on a slight decline (age/lifestyle), he still has in abundance.

        Usyk is a superior version of Bivol, and although Beterbiev is a great fighter, very technically sound, and a feared puncher, he does not have anywhere near the overall skillset of Tyson Fury. It's funny how Lennox Lewis can lose to two men, both by KO, that aren't fit to lace Dereck Chisora's boots, never mind Usyk's, and gets a pass, that every Mike Tyson loss is put down to him being passed his prime, and that Evan Fields (Evander Holyfield) can lose 100 fights and live like he's Walter White, and all get a pass, yet Fury, the man who dethroned prime Wlad, so much so in Wlad's backyard, he might as well have been fighting in his kitchen, then beat Wilder when nobody else could, and when Joshua and Hearn ran when Wilder put down $50 million on a table, goes on to lose a very close split-decision, in a fight that he dominated in spells between 4-7, and gets slaughtered.

        We need to put some respect on the name of these two ATG heavyweights. Not just Usyk, but Fury too, and mark the Great Nash's words, the Furious one is going to produce something very special in December. Nash out - His Excellency
        Fury is a fraud who fought 3 top ten boxers his entire career, and was dropped and beaten by an MMA fighter in his first ever pro boxing match. If he wasn’t 6’9 and half a ton in weight, little Usyk would wipe him in 6 rounds. Even so, he beat Fury around the ring like a child.

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        • #5
          Bivol and Beterbiev neutralised each other

          Usyk neutralised Fury

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          • #6
            I actually agree. There was far more adapting and momentum swings between Fury and Usyk. With Usyk eventually posing a question Fury couldn’t answer.

            Bivol boxed and moved early and had success but as soon as Beterbiev upped the pressure, he had no answers.
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            • #7
              Both were amazing. Fury and Usyk fight was especially brilliant and the amount of skill displayed by both men was incredible for heavyweights.
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              • #8
                Both fights were close, I like RJ's take lol. Ebb and flow were in both matches, I think the degree of ebb and flow was far greater in the Fury Usyk fight... Both fights suggest the need for a rematch.

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                • #9
                  Both brilliant fights but comparing Fury's technical skill level to any of Usyk, Bivol and Beterbiev is crazy.

                  Fury is big and awkward. He does some effective things with his size and reach. But he's regularly caught square on or crossing his own feet. He can't defend a left hand - even a novice was able to land lefts at will. It's a different ball park in terms of skill level.

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                  • #10
                    I just put $50 million down on my table. It's the same $50 million that Deontay put down on his table. He asked me to look after it for him after Hearn and AJ ran away from it.
                    Last edited by kafkod; 10-17-2024, 04:41 AM.
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