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  • #11
    Possibly, it's heavyweight boxing. But despite all the discussion regarding Usyk's weakness in that area, he's been in with some big men and not been stopped. We don't really know how much of an impact Dubois had - we only know how he reacted when the ref allowed him time (the same way that Joshua should have reacted if he was smarter).

    He's always looked a bit more susceptible to the uppercut to me. Hard to land on him straight when he's changing levels but an uppercut can catch him.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
      I believe Usyk was dropped at least twice as an amateur to the body by Beterbiev

      Fury believes he needs a ko to win and will be going for it

      Can Fury ko Usyk thanks to a good bodyshot
      He was dropped once by Beterbiev. I think he went on to win that fight.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post
        Usyk intentionally wears his the belt above the belly button, because he is aware he is weak to the body and he is a natural cruiserweight, it has been shown in his bouts, specially recently with Dubois and Fury. He also acted as if Dubois landed a low blow to recover and not get points deducted.

        Just don't think Fury will pull it off as Usyk now has the experience on handling his reach and will be able capitalize more on any openings Fury leaves.
        Usyk doesn't doesn't wear his shorts high. That was a lie concocted by Don Charles and co-signed by Fury and Warren.

        image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.planetsport.com%2Fimage-library%2Fland%2F700%2Fo%2Foleksandr-usyk-v-daniel-dubois.webp&w=3840&q=75.jpg

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        • #14
          Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post
          Usyk intentionally wears his the belt above the belly button, because he is aware he is weak to the body and he is a natural cruiserweight, it has been shown in his bouts, specially recently with Dubois and Fury. He also acted as if Dubois landed a low blow to recover and not get points deducted.

          Just don't think Fury will pull it off as Usyk now has the experience on handling his reach and will be able capitalize more on any openings Fury leaves.
          The ref called the low blow as soon as it landed. If Usyk was acting when he went down then he would have got up if the ref had started counting. Unless you think he would have carried on acting and let himself get counted out?

          The rules say that any punch landing below the navel is a foul. Dubois' punch landed well below the navel. It was a low blow. There is no doubt about that at all. This video proves it.

          Last edited by kafkod; 10-07-2024, 04:36 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Because usyk didn't cry every time fury landed B odyshotst fury didn't think he was effecting usyk. But if usyk cries to ref this time, fury knows he's there for taking.
            So usyk will have to practice poker face
            Fury will have to practice not getting knocked the **** out after the ref saved his ass in round 9 in the last fight.

            Fury should be more worried about his own chinny ass making it the distance than trying to knock Usyk out.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by J.C. Superstar View Post
              Usyk intentionally wears his the belt above the belly button, because he is aware he is weak to the body and he is a natural cruiserweight, it has been shown in his bouts, specially recently with Dubois and Fury. He also acted as if Dubois landed a low blow to recover and not get points deducted.

              Just don't think Fury will pull it off as Usyk now has the experience on handling his reach and will be able capitalize more on any openings Fury leaves.
              Strange, it wasn't Usyk who wore his trunks all the way to his **** last fight...


              kafkod kafkod likes this.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

                Strange, it wasn't Usyk who wore his trunks all the way to his **** last fight...


                former cruiserweight beating one of the biggest heavyweights ever who has skills

                impressive win

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                • #18
                  Tyson Fury is not really a great body puncher, is this a sudden new ability people are now bestowing upon him? But I don't really have any doubts, that Tyson Fury will attempt to whack Oleksandr Uysk to the body. This will ether work out for Tyson Fury, or it may backfire badly'.

                  The reason why I say, those sort of tactics could backfire 'Are due to Tyson Fury not really having great boxing fundamentals and being prone always to producing unforced errors'. If Fury's tactics in the rematch are to pressure Usyk, then people need realize that? This is a entirely different challenge, to when Fury was pressurizing Deontay Wilder II & III'.

                  Oleksandr Uysk was able to hit Tyson Fury consistently, and hurt him badly in their first fight 'Even though Fury was fighting, quite a measured and defensive fight off the back foot. Uysk in every single round, was still able to land on Tyson Fury's body mass'.

                  Potentially if Tyson Fury is going to utilize his inside game and rough house tactics vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'Then the jeopardy in this fight for both fighters will increase. But in some ways, it makes the fight tactically more straight forward and easier for Oleksandr Uysk to prepare for and fight'.

                  Before Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk I 'Nobody could really for sure envision, a fight were Oleksandr Uysk was able to pressure and track down Tyson Fury. I was actually one of the few individual's who stated on the day of the fight, that Oleksandr Uysk was going to pressure Tyson Fury. There was just too much on the line, in this Undisputed fight for both of the fighters to fight off the back foot'.

                  Although in the opening of my posts, I have stated that Tyson Fury is not really a great body puncher 'That does not mean, Fury will not commit to attacking the body mass of Uysk. Tyson Fury is a complete fighter. Which means he has the ability and is game at fighting in all area's of boxing, Inside Game, Mid to Long Range Game, Rough House tactics. Fury may not be the absolute best Heavyweight Fighter of all-time in all area's of his boxing, but historically he has proven that he attempt to fight in all area's'.

                  That is the difference between Tyson Fury and many of the other Heavyweights of this era, far too many Heavyweights seem to only excel in one to two area's of boxing 'Then many of their other attributes when you analyse them, are not really on par or they are way below par in comparison'.

                  Daniel Dubois for example, I have not seen any hardcore evidence that he is a complete fighter 'If Anthony Joshua could of survived that 5th round, I have watched back the fight. To a detailed observer, even with Anthony Joshua skill for skill fighting his worst professional fight ever. The signs were all there on show, If Joshua vs Dubois I would of turned into a distance fight? Then the fight potentially may of moved away from Dubois dramatically'.

                  Daniel Dubois's team will know this themselves, if they are the experts to the level they claim to be. I rate Don Charles very highly, he is one of the best boxing trainers in the UK. Don Charles will know 'That Dubois has just had his Any Given Saturday. Good for him, Dubois took his opportunity. Daniel Dubois's next fight in my opinion, will be the ultimate litmus test to date in his career to see if he is more than just a Hasim Rahman or Oliver McCall one time World Heavyweight Champion. Especially and more specifically if Daniel Dubois's next fight, is the rematch vs Anthony Joshua II'.

                  In regards to Tyson Fury, if Fury is coming into this rematch 'With the ambition of fighting on the extreme offense, and utilizing all of his inside game with rough house tactic's. The fight is a more dangerous fight for both fighters, but also more straight forward. Oleksandr Uysk now knows he can hurt Tyson Fury badly with his power, and Uysk has the experience of enduring and withstanding Fury's power. Those factors are going to have a affect on how Uysk reacts to a version of Tyson Fury attempting to bull forward vs him'.

                  I don't really think Tyson Fury is a great body puncher technically, and? The more he throws to the body, I would imagine this would create openings in Fury's defensive lines 'For Oleksandr Uysk to launch his own offensive attacks'. So as you can see from this discussion, the jeopardy for both fighters will increase. Nobody knows for sure who will dominate or be the better fighter in this style of fight, especially after the first fight'.

                  Note: But I believe that coming into this rematch, more people are now understanding how Oleksandr Uysk can compete with Tyson Fury 'In whatever style of fight he brings. This is because of how Oleksandr Uysk fought Tyson Fury in the first fight, how he was able to endure and withstand Fury's power and hurt him badly with his own punching power'.

                  Before the first fight, there was a mass narrative with certain folk within the boxing community 'That a version of Tyson Fury, who wades forward on the offense using his inside game and rough house tactics. That style of fight, would be stylistically be Oleksandr Uysk's worst ever match up'.

                  How many people genuinely and honestly believe that now? The number of people who backed this narrative has decreased during the aftermath of the first fight 'The perception of the challenge for Oleksandr Uysk in this rematch has altered'.

                  Theoretically, the style which Tyson Fury used vs Oleksandr Uysk in their first fight 'That was the actual style, that many experts believed would be best to beat Oleksandr Uysk. A hybrid version of The Riddler. Classic Tyson Fury before his disappearance from the game, unfortunately due to his then circumstance'.

                  What people have learned from the first fight, is that Tyson Fury skill for skill is not a superior pure boxer to Oleksandr Uysk. Tyson Fury in terms of athleticism, is not superior fighter to Oleksandr Uysk. And that Tyson Fury's brute strength and power did not have anywhere near the anticipated effect that his training team, backers, hardcore fans and certain folk within the boxing community were all expecting.

                  Those are the raw statistics of the action from the first fight between Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk I.

                  To conclude: Somehow and someway, Tyson Fury in every single one of those area's has to increase his game 'Because that is the way he will win. This is providing that Oleksandr Uysk maintains his form from their first fight, at the very least. Uysk himself of course is going to also be aiming to increase his game'.

                  In reflection from their first fight, I actually don't rate Oleksandr Uysk's performance vs Tyson Fury I 'As his best ever Heavyweight fight. Skill for skill, I believe Uysk performed better vs Anthony Joshua I & II, definitively for sure in the rematch'.

                  Tyson Fury in comparison, Fury vs Uysk I. For me this fight signified, and proved that Tyson Fury at least on that form is still a elite level fighter 'Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk I, skill for was in my opinion. Tyson Fury's best all round boxing performance for skill since Fury vs Kiltschko from a pure boxing perspective. Tyson Fury's exploits vs Deontay Wilder, were more a test of his resolve, durability and courage to a elite level'..

                  What we know about Tyson Fury, is that historically he will tactically switch up his game for a rematch 'Tyson Fury attempted to bring a hybrid version of the Riddler, for the first fight vs Oleksandr Uysk. Fury fought very well, but he got beat and smashed up in the 9th round'.

                  Tyson Fury all the speculation and talk from himself, is that he is dramatically switch up his tactics in the first fight 'I believe that deserves credit, because Fury is making those altercations knows that Oleksandr Uysk has the ability to hurt with his power'.

                  Tyson Fury has done this before vs Deontay Wilder II & II 'But the difference is, Fury will need to be skill for skill more sophisticated and fundamentally s​olid vs Oleksandr Uysk. Otherwise like I stated in the opening of my posts, this style of fight may backfire badly for Tyson Fury' etc.











                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-08-2024, 11:07 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Fury will go for the knockout immediately, will gas after a few rounds, and will get knocked out for real this time.

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