Will Bivol get any credit if he schools Beterbiev?

[PBR Streetgang]

Let's not forget that while Beterbiev didn't turn pro until later, he was still training, sparring and fighting in the amateurs. He started boxing around the age of 10 if my memory serves me right and he had something around 300 amateur fights.

It may not be the same wear and tear as the professional ranks but it is still wear and tear nonetheless.

[SouthpawRight]

Let's not forget that while Beterbiev didn't turn pro until later, he was still training, sparring and fighting in the amateurs. He started boxing around the age of 10 if my memory serves me right and he had something around 300 amateur fights.

It may not be the same wear and tear as the professional ranks but it is still wear and tear nonetheless.

and what does Bet do after if Biv wins

Bet will be seen as having aged well if he has good performances after

Bet Zurdo
Bet Jai

all good matches

Bet will have done everything there is to do at LHW by facing Bivol

The smaller Biv should spend sometime reigning over 175

i think bet rehydrates to 195 on fight night to Biv’s 185

[crimsonfalcon07]

Bivol has been calling out Beterbiev since 2019, and it's been Beterbiev's side, especially Arum, who have been refusing to make the fight. Beterbiev literally left Matchroom the same day Bivol signed. Arum is on record saying he wasn't going to make the fight multiple times. So if Beterbiev is too old or injured, that's entirely on Beterbiev. He's had 5 years to make this fight. And Beterbiev is the boxer-puncher. He's got more ways to win than Bivol, who needs to fight a perfect fight for 12 rounds and not get clipped by that rabbit punch from Beterbiev, who's managed to land it on everyone who's ever faced. If Beterbiev makes it to the ring and the fight happens, Bivol gets full credit for beating him.

[SouthpawRight]

Bivol has been calling out Beterbiev since 2019, and it's been Beterbiev's side, especially Arum, who have been refusing to make the fight. Beterbiev literally left Matchroom the same day Bivol signed. Arum is on record saying he wasn't going to make the fight multiple times. So if Beterbiev is too old or injured, that's entirely on Beterbiev. He's had 5 years to make this fight. And Beterbiev is the boxer-puncher. He's got more ways to win than Bivol, who needs to fight a perfect fight for 12 rounds and not get clipped by that rabbit punch from Beterbiev, who's managed to land it on everyone who's ever faced. If Beterbiev makes it to the ring and the fight happens, Bivol gets full credit for beating him.

so Bet pulled a pacquiao by stalling the fight

it was stalled until it backfired

but Bet’s injury is real while manny made up a fictional story

[QueensburyRules]

I get the feeling it's a bit of a no win situation for Bivol.

If he wins, I'm sure people will start saying Beterbiev is an injury prone old fighter. But it's not like it's a lie either.

I can't wait for the fight and have been picking Bivol for years but I get the feeling he's not going to get enough credit if he wins.

It's a shame this fight didn't happen two or three years ago. Beterbiev and Top Rank have avoided this fight for years. Beterbiev even ran from DAZN as as Bivol joined seeking that fight. It was only Saudi money that's getting Beterbiev in the ring.

Not to put a downer on the fight, I'm very excited but it's just a shame that there might be an asterisk if Bivol wins because Beterbiev is 40 and postponed his last 3 fights just to injury, not to mention an atypical finding in a test.

It often seems these fights never happen in a situation where there can be no excuse regarding the winner and loser.

- - Appearing Clowns can't die, can only have asterisks for brain cells is it now?

Top 5 Dumberest Post of the Year...DPY...

[boogbx]

I have Beterbiev by vicious KO so if Bivol wins I’ll more tha. Give him props.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Biv is in a strange situation. He would get the most credit winning a wide 9-3 decision with competitive rounds

Dominating Bet results in division. Some would excuse Bet’s condition

Most credit Biv winning with Bet taking rounds 3, 4, and 8 OR 9. Bet was still good but Biv was too smart and adjusted to outbox him wide

If Bet cannot hit Biv with the jab, he cannot hit him with sht. If Bet jab doesn’t land, nothing else will

Long guard of Biv will be the problem for Bet

Biv long guard helps shut down Bet’s jab via traffic, parries, hand trapping, and head control

you’ll see Bet outlanding Gvozdyk in jabs starting in round 1

Ukrainian didn’t have the skill set to neuter Bet’s ******* jab which setup that bludgeon overhand

Biv is a fundamental fighter. Nothing flashy. Outjab the opponent so I can land power and he cant

Bet will go for his long right hook downstairs. Biv has been practicing his rear upper
Bet went pro late at 28 and has less wear & tear than most 39 year old boxers.

Similar with the 33 Biv who started at 24
but why does Biv always yield whenever Bet pulls his

ask him [Biv] why the fight didn’t happen sooner

I don’t think Bivol’s guard will be a major problem. His movement could be though.

[SouthpawRight]

I don’t think Bivol’s guard will be a major problem. His movement could be though.

it’s the multiple layers of defense and options that make him hard to hit

Alvarez landed like 2 or 3 good right uppers but Biv adjusted it away after the 4th round

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

it’s the multiple layers of defense and options that make him hard to hit

Alvarez landed like 2 or 3 good right uppers but Biv adjusted it away after the 4th round

I don’t see these supposed layers, I think it’s very basic, high guard to block punches, feet to control range. It’s undoubtedly effective but I highly doubt it’ll be effective when a guy can consistently get into range. Bivol doesn’t use reflexes like Floyd, Sweet Pea etc, he’s not a slippery fighter. He’s just very good fundamentally.

[SouthpawRight]

I don’t see these supposed layers, I think it’s very basic, high guard to block punches, feet to control range. It’s undoubtedly effective but I highly doubt it’ll be effective when a guy can consistently get into range. Bivol doesn’t use reflexes like Floyd, Sweet Pea etc, he’s not a slippery fighter. He’s just very good fundamentally.

fundamentals are fundamentals for a reason

they work most of the time

as the Mayweather once said mastering the fundamentals is what brought him so far

One must be black or a Slique White Chocolate like Alvarez to have that upper body fluidity

Biv defense more along the lines of a Willie Pep: win the battle of jabbing to control distance

Biv doesnt always high guard. He alternates between high and long. Whenever he boxes with a lower lead hand that’s long guard time to stuff opponents