Will Bivol get any credit if he schools Beterbiev?

[deathofaclown]

I get the feeling it's a bit of a no win situation for Bivol.

If he wins, I'm sure people will start saying Beterbiev is an injury prone old fighter. But it's not like it's a lie either.

I can't wait for the fight and have been picking Bivol for years but I get the feeling he's not going to get enough credit if he wins.

It's a shame this fight didn't happen two or three years ago. Beterbiev and Top Rank have avoided this fight for years. Beterbiev even ran from DAZN as as Bivol joined seeking that fight. It was only Saudi money that's getting Beterbiev in the ring.

Not to put a downer on the fight, I'm very excited but it's just a shame that there might be an asterisk if Bivol wins because Beterbiev is 40 and postponed his last 3 fights just to injury, not to mention an atypical finding in a test.

It often seems these fights never happen in a situation where there can be no excuse regarding the winner and loser.

[BodyBagz]

I get the feeling it's a bit of a no win situation for Bivol.

If he wins, I'm sure people will start saying Beterbiev is an injury prone old fighter. But it's not like it's a lie either.

I can't wait for the fight and have been picking Bivol for years but I get the feeling he's not going to get enough credit if he wins.

It's a shame this fight didn't happen two or three years ago. Beterbiev and Top Rank have avoided this fight for years. Beterbiev even ran from DAZN as as Bivol joined seeking that fight. It was only Saudi money that's getting Beterbiev in the ring.

Not to put a downer on the fight, I'm very excited but it's just a shame that there might be an asterisk if Bivol wins because Beterbiev is 40 and postponed his last 3 fights just to injury, not to mention an atypical finding in a test.

It often seems these fights never happen in a situation where there can be no excuse regarding the winner and loser.

Built in excuses are laughable
If a guy is too old vs a certain level of opponent, he shouldn't fight that opponent.
It's ridiculous how age is only mentioned when the comp is somewhat dangerous.
His fans didn't seem age was an issue with his last opponent.

You're right, though.
L/L situation -
If he doesn't fight Beter, he scurd
If he beats Beter, Beter was too old.
Any excuse if Biv loses ?!?!?


I usually side with the boxer when it's vs a puncher.
Punchers tend to get lost if their power is not effective.

[Citizen Koba]

He will off me, can't speak for anyone else. Helluva fight. Become a bit jaded wrt to boxing this last 18 months or so and got a bunch of other stuff going on irl anyway but this is one of a very few fights I will be staying up till the early hours for this year.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I think he would get a lot of credit. Beterbiev may be 39 and has had injuries but he’s unquestionably still an elite fighter.

You’ll get the same idiots who discredit everything, you know the guys who call 40-0 Canelo “green” or act as if Spence went straight from a car crash into the ring with Bud. The real fans will give credit where it’s due though.

I ain’t picking Bivol too FTR, I think Beterbiev is going to stop him, I don’t think Bivol is anywhere near as difficult to hit as people think, I expect Artur to obliterate that high guard. I also think people severely underestimate Artur’s boxing brain and ring IQ. May the best man win though, can’t wait!!

[hugh grant]

Bivol will get credit, but of course there will be excuses that takes a bit away. Even if as little as beterbiev might have been a bit better 2 years ago.
If beterbiev wins, people will make excuses for beterbiev too

[PBR Streetgang]

He will get credit from me. Beterbiev is still a monster. a highly skilled one at that.

I think it's entirely acceptable about putting a fight into context, we shouldn't pretend that Artur isn't 39 or hasn't dealt with injuries. However, I think there segments of the boxing community that will always be unhappy or unwilling to acknowledge accomplishments no matter what.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Beterbiev left DAZN when Bivol joined. he has nobody but himself to blaim the fight didn`t happen earlier.

[STREET CLEANER]

Either fighter will get full credit if they win the fight.

[SceneBoxer]

If you mean school like how Bivol schooled Boos Nelo then of course he gets a ton of credits ...

[SouthpawRight]

Built in excuses are laughable
If a guy is too old vs a certain level of opponent, he shouldn't fight that opponent.
It's ridiculous how age is only mentioned when the comp is somewhat dangerous.
His fans didn't seem age was an issue with his last opponent.

You're right, though.
L/L situation -
If he doesn't fight Beter, he scurd
If he beats Beter, Beter was too old.
Any excuse if Biv loses ?!?!?


I usually side with the boxer when it's vs a puncher.
Punchers tend to get lost if their power is not effective.

Biv is in a strange situation. He would get the most credit winning a wide 9-3 decision with competitive rounds

Dominating Bet results in division. Some would excuse Bet’s condition

Most credit Biv winning with Bet taking rounds 3, 4, and 8 OR 9. Bet was still good but Biv was too smart and adjusted to outbox him wide

I think he would get a lot of credit. Beterbiev may be 39 and has had injuries but he’s unquestionably still an elite fighter.

You’ll get the same idiots who discredit everything, you know the guys who call 40-0 Canelo “green” or act as if Spence went straight from a car crash into the ring with Bud. The real fans will give credit where it’s due though.

I ain’t picking Bivol too FTR, I think Beterbiev is going to stop him, I don’t think Bivol is anywhere near as difficult to hit as people think, I expect Artur to obliterate that high guard. I also think people severely underestimate Artur’s boxing brain and ring IQ. May the best man win though, can’t wait!!

If Bet cannot hit Biv with the jab, he cannot hit him with sht. If Bet jab doesn’t land, nothing else will

Long guard of Biv will be the problem for Bet

Biv long guard helps shut down Bet’s jab via traffic, parries, hand trapping, and head control

you’ll see Bet outlanding Gvozdyk in jabs starting in round 1

Ukrainian didn’t have the skill set to neuter Bet’s ******* jab which setup that bludgeon overhand

Biv is a fundamental fighter. Nothing flashy. Outjab the opponent so I can land power and he cant

Bet will go for his long right hook downstairs. Biv has been practicing his rear upper

He will get credit from me. Beterbiev is still a monster. a highly skilled one at that.

I think it's entirely acceptable about putting a fight into context, we shouldn't pretend that Artur isn't 39 or hasn't dealt with injuries. However, I think there segments of the boxing community that will always be unhappy or unwilling to acknowledge accomplishments no matter what.

Bet went pro late at 28 and has less wear & tear than most 39 year old boxers.

Similar with the 33 Biv who started at 24

Beterbiev left DAZN when Bivol joined. he has nobody but himself to blaim the fight didn`t happen earlier.

but why does Biv always yield whenever Bet pulls his

ask him [Biv] why the fight didn’t happen sooner