All of those muscles just goes to show that…

[Raggamuffin]

I have seen him jab, avoid punches and has multiple punches he uses. It is a reason why a Wilder or Fury fight was interesting because he does possess skills. He is a type of fighter when the fight does not goes his way he starts to diminish mentally. Both Usyk fights he was trying to win and adjusted but Usyk has a second gear and is able to adjust even more in a fight.

Most of the greats, atg’s or legends at one point in their careers became resigned to the fact that if they have to come back in a fight…they have to take punches to give punches. Joshua gets hit because he has no defense, not because he took that risk. He makes that choice mentally not to get hit, when hit. People were fooled when he beat 41 year old Wlad, but I saw his flaws then just as I saw Wilders.

We always wanted to see what would happen if Joshua had to go to plan B. He has never wavered into a fighter and said, imma fight him on the inside and see where that takes me. He was always a bit hesitant, and that separation is why there is great, atg, and legends in that ring. His chin isn’t the problem. It’s just one of a few flaws that he’s always had.

[Toffee]

You read the whole post. He doesn’t have boxing skills. He has power when he can hit you, and that’s it. I know that this is hard to take, but he has major flaws that were hidden because has gotten away with it using his power to bail him out. I pointed out his flaws …I don’t taint fighters careers. What he has accomplished in the ring counts, but his flaws is why he was outboxed and kod. You’ve seen his losses, now ask yourself why he lost.

Many fighters have lost in the past, and lost respectably. People don’t feel that way about Joshua’s losses. He’s always given an excuse by his fans. He didn’t lose because he had a bad night or that the other guy was just better. He was out iced twice and stopped twice, and his power was a non factor in all of those fights. He isn’t a fighter that can change his game plan when his power can’t bail him out.

I really didn't. I figured I knew where it was going.

Same as after the second sentence here.

He very definitively does have boxing skills. He definitely has flaws too, but you don't outbox the guys he's outboxed without boxing skills. You don't do it without very high level boxing skills.

[TMLT87]

Hes no Larry Holmes but he definitely had some boxing skills, albeit with plenty of flaws, but of course his size, athleticism and power was a major part of his effectiveness.

[Raggamuffin]

I really didn't. I figured I knew where it was going.

Same as after the second sentence here.

He very definitively does have boxing skills. He definitely has flaws too, but you don't outbox the guys he's outboxed without boxing skills. You don't do it without very high level boxing skills.

You read everything that I post, foh lmao. It’s a debate and difference of opinion nothing more. It’s never personal. We’re not in that ring at their level so we give our opinions. True judgement of his career comes after he retires.

[STREET CLEANER]

Most of the greats, atg’s or legends at one point in their careers became resigned to the fact that if they have to come back in a fight…they have to take punches to give punches. Joshua gets hit because he has no defense, not because he took that risk. He makes that choice mentally not to get hit, when hit. People were fooled when he beat 41 year old Wlad, but I saw his flaws then just as I saw Wilders.

We always wanted to see what would happen if Joshua had to go to plan B. He has never wavered into a fighter and said, imma fight him on the inside and see where that takes me. He was always a bit hesitant, and that separation is why there is great, atg, and legends in that ring. His chin isn’t the problem. It’s just one of a few flaws that he’s always had.

He gets too much credit for the Wlad fight. He was old, inactive and they were sparring partners.