Right hand that dropped AJ in round 1

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  • Toffee
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    #11
    I think Joshua was already damaged by the first right hand about 20 seconds into the first round.

    The reason he got caught by that shot at the end of the round was that he switched off. He stood there with his hands down and Dubois launched. The opening couldn't have been bigger.

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    • mxtali
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      #12
      Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
      Was a huge overhand looping right thrown from a million miles away. How did AJ not block/get out of the way?? Head up in the air with his hands down. Unbelievable
      I told my friends this exact thing and took a screenshot of it. The distance he was at when he threw it was nuts.

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      • 2fast2strong
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        #13
        It landed because Anthony was fighting scared, his head was up in the air and his hands were down because he didn’t want to commit to a punch

        He was always trying to pull away after he punched and not get hit
        he didn’t commit to a punch until the final round when he got dropped for the last time

        The funny thing is it’s the exact same kind of punch Wilder throws but at 1/8 the speed

        If wilder would of landed that punch on Anthony he would still be asleep right now
        Last edited by 2fast2strong; 09-22-2024, 06:22 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Smash
          he was too chilled in the run up to the fight, which AJ'ers thought meant he was going to be killer relaxed in the ring resulting finally in killer AJ being unleashed on the world (did he ever exist even for a short moment) but it ended up him looking like he was going for a nap in there, which he was

          ben was lauded as transforming AJ but he may well have ended up overseeing his poorest performance in the ring, at the end of the day its pretty easy for a guy like AJ who is good to look great v lower level guys like he had in the run up to this fight & were used by AJ'ers as proof he was better than ever but dubois, even tho he has had his issues as well, turned out to be too dangerous for AJ
          I think people get hypnotized by AJ. It is not a trainers fault that a fighter keeps his hands down, decides to keep his head straight up, and zone out... Davis had no more responsibility for what happened to AJ than I did... Everything Ben worked on was shelved when AJ decided to hand his head to DD on a sliver platter, DD just had to fire away, and he did, though I must say he looked splendid defensively compared to previous fights... AJ's problem has always been he cannot overcome aggression that truly backs him up. He stops doing everything when he is truly backed up. Ironically enough, Usyk had a harder time than many with AJ precisely because USyk is a genius at lateral movements and not so good at straight away backing his opponents up...

          AJ losses his bearing when he is backed up... Like Vlad Klitsko who "flinched" when attacked, this is a psychological issue. In either case it makes the fighter shut down under certain conditions. We saw it with Vlad until he was taught to clinch (cheat), and we see it with AJ when he faces guys who can hit and come forward aggressively.

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            #15
            Originally posted by mxtali

            I told my friends this exact thing and took a screenshot of it. The distance he was at when he threw it was nuts.
            Distance? If this fight had been in Jersey? AJ would have been in New York State trying to avoid that shot!

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              #16
              Originally posted by elfag



              bingo which is exactly why i predicted a KO win for dubois and Im shocked that Hearns didnt see this coming. also that pre fight poll they showed 83% favoring joshua i also thought was insane but assume it was a lot of casuals.

              Dubois is nothing like the guys that Joshua has been facing since Ruiz. None of those guys had a chance to KO joshua. Even when he took the Usyk fight they took it because they believed Usyk was too small and had no chance.
              I do not think casuals thought AJ would win. Did anyone think a guy supposed to be almost top dog would just stand there like AJ did? with hands down and head up? Dubois had worked on his defense and was confident in it... Enough so to attack and keep attacking. I never thought much of either of these guys and thought Joshua would win, but what "casuals" thought Sanders would ice Vlad? Same scenario really. It is a weak division and some of these guys get far with bad habits still around. AJ cannot fight when he cannot set and he losses his composure when on the retreat. Dubois had enough confidence to push AJ back and not worry about getting tagged.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
                Was a huge overhand looping right thrown from a million miles away. How did AJ not block/get out of the way?? Head up in the air with his hands down. Unbelievable
                It looked like he thought he was well out of range, but clearly wasn't. That's all I can think.

                We know AJ isn't someome defensive wizard but he's generally smart enough not to get hit with that kind of shot.

                That's why I think he completely had a lapse and badly misjudged the distance and thought he was safe. But even then, it come from so far out that you'd think he would make a decent effort of blocking it. It's not even like it was a particularly quick overhand right.

                Honestly I think he was just panicking a bit. It was evident from 30 seconds in that Dubois jab had him worried and he lost concentration.

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                  #18
                  Joshua remembered the sparring sesession, from what i heard dubois would hurt him regularly. when dubois landed the first punch, you could tell he remembered the sparring sessions and essentially check out mentally, i don't want to say quit because AJ showed a lot of heart taking those shots and getting up again and again but the gameplan went out and basic things like holding your hands up. he knew dubois always had the capacity to finish him in a real fight and his nightmare came true

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #19
                    Everything told me ddd would win this but I read too much into others opinions?
                    Josh to me didn't look convincing against helenius and jermain, yet people thought ddd wouldn't pose more questions than them, andJosh would win cos of experience? I went along with that too, whilst thinking ddd beating flip and Miller was better than anything Josh did of late
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-23-2024, 06:12 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 2fast2strong
                      It landed because Anthony was fighting scared, his head was up in the air and his hands were down because he didn’t want to commit to a punch

                      He was always trying to pull away after he punched and not get hit
                      he didn’t commit to a punch until the final round when he got dropped for the last time

                      The funny thing is it’s the exact same kind of punch Wilder throws but at 1/8 the speed

                      If wilder would of landed that punch on Anthony he would still be asleep right now
                      People still overating wilder and his mythical power. Dubois has shown to be a much bigger puncher than wilder with 2 kos over top 5 guys. Wilder kod 1 top 10 guy his entire career. If you look at ko percentage Dubois has a 50% ratio to Wilders 25% against top 10 opponents. Dubois also kod Miller who probably would be in tge top 10 if he didn't get robbed against ruiz. I dont see any hidden gems on Wilders resume just guys like spilzka, Washington, duhapas etc

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