Haney

[champion4ever]

That's your proof? I mean fighters say silly comments everyday. This is not that. It sounds like Teo felt that way and gave an indication as to why. Why does that make someone racist? If I say I don't agree with B L M because it favors black people and it should want no harm to any people you have to qualify that if you're going to call that racist.

It sounds like you're one of those that want to control how people use language, and censor everybody. Why shouldn't someone be able to state favoritism? Certainly I black people have been able to make claims of favoritism and for good reason! Why can't a Hispanic do the same? Why can't a white person do the same?

It makes sense because it’s false. C’mon man! Scapegoating an entire race of people for the reason why you are not getting the type of money and push from your promotional company is copping out.

It’s not black fighters fault why he is not a box office pay per view Draw or can’t draw flies to shit! He is really bitter about how he is being promoted.

He is over inflating his worth. He has to start putting meat in the seats in order to demand the type of money he wants.

Top Rank is not in the business of losing money but making money. They would be a damn fool to pour good money after bad.

Until Teo can prove that he can start selling out arenas like Gervonta Davis and not these MSG theatres. Then he will never become this mainstream crossover star.

Besides, Devin Haney bet on himself. He took short money to fight the undisputed lightweight champion of the world George Kambosos.

He not only defeated him once but twice on foreign soil way in a distant land.

[champion4ever]

He was obviously reacting out of anger and jealousy because he felt he was not getting the same treatment that marquee names like Haney and perhaps Bud received from Top Rank. He obviously felt that he's just as good as Haney and Bud, I personally don't think he's as good. Teo speaks foolishly and has a history of being foolish with his words and not just against black fighters. But I agree that he was wrong in singling out black fighters.

Can you please explain how or when Teo doubled down on his foolish words regarding black fighters? For all I know, you might be right and he might have, I just can't find anything that leads me to believe he doubled down.

As for Haney, he apologized for using the term White Boy, not for implying that no white man could ever beat him. Many would argue that what makes Haney a racist is that he indirectly stated that white men are inferior to him, therefore he wouldn't lose to a white man.

These were Haney's words

“Over the last couple days I’ve had time to reflect on a lot,” Haney revealed in a public statement on Tuesday. “I sincerely regret using a term that I have now learned to be derogatory to many of my fans, friends and associates.”

“I can tell you this – I will never lose to a white boy in my life,” Haney (24-0, 15KOs) insisted during the session, which streamed live on April 15. “I don’t care what nobody got to say. Listen, can’t no white boy beat me, I don’t care, on any day of the week. I fight a white boy like 10 times, I’m gonna beat him 10 times.”

I personally feel that neither man is racist but both have a tendency to spit out foolish words without thinking. Both of these guys have fathers whom are active in their lives and should know better and teach their son's better. Maybe the blame lies on both their fathers for not teaching them better.

For as heated as the rivalry was between Oscar and Sugar Shane, I can't remember them insulting each other because of their cultural differences. Jack did a fantastic job fathering and educating his son... I don't think Oscar's father did as good a job though.

I had time today so excuse my long posts. I do want to thank you for the civil and respectful dialogue and I'd like to add that I agree with you on many things and consider you an educated poster on boxing matters.

Cheers to you!

Cheers to you mate! That was awfully nice of you to say! You’re an excellent listener and I greatly your open-mindedness and non biased posts also

[billeau2]

It makes sense because it’s false. C’mon man! Scapegoating an entire race of people for the reason why you are not getting the type of money and push from your promotional company is copping out.

It’s not black fighters fault why he is not a box office pay per view Draw or can’t draw flies to shit! He is really bitter about how he is being promoted.

He is over inflating his worth. He has to start putting meat in the seats in order to demand the type of money he wants.

Top Rank is not in the business of losing money but making money. They would be a damn fool to pour good money after bad.

Until Teo can prove that he can start selling out arenas like Gervonta Davis and not these MSG theatres. Then he will never become this mainstream crossover star.

Besides, Devin Haney bet on himself. He took short money to fight the undisputed lightweight champion of the world George Kambosos.

He not only defeated him once but twice on foreign soil way in a distant land.

It's not always a question of fault. People say a lot of ****** things doesn't make them a racist. People also have opinions and it might involve a feeling of being discriminated against whether it's true or not. I grew up as a minority dig a white boy in East Harlem, I got called all kinds of things I never thought anybody was racist because of it. Haney has been provocative in that way you even said as much. Doesn't make people racist automatically.