Why is no one giving Fury a chance in the rematch

[billeau2]

people still are living the fools dream pretending that wilder was some high level talent and that fury beating him meant something...when you get one thing wrong your ability to analyze things rationally is going to be affected. fury is a good fighter but hes not better than usyk. can he win? yes. will he? probably not.

If this is true? You have been in r e t a r d mode now for years!!

[billeau2]

For the simple fact that Fury is tired man. He just ain’t got fight in him no more and Usyk wants it a lot more than he does.

He hurt Usyk several times in that bout and each and every time he backed off and let up by admiring his work.
That’s a sign of fighter who is both mentally drained and fatigued.

Those Wilder fights might have taken a lot more out of him than we all had originally thought. He has not been the same fighter since that Wilder/Fury trilogy.

He appeared both lethargic, unfocused, bored, listless and disinterested against Oleksandr Usyk.

He is going to have to bite down and dig deep at this stage of his career in order to defeat Usyk. I don’t think he can still do it.

Yep... Those Wilder fights were life changing tough, for both guys. Goes to show how much a rivalry, when two legit dangerous opponents fight for keeps, can take a toll. Its good to see someone on this thread that seems to be mostly a crcle jrk for Usyk, saw when Usyk was hurt. I would have given the fight to Usyk as well, but it was close and Fury would have done himself a favor if he just took the count when he was hurt that round. It looked worse than it was, probably affected scoring as well. If he had just went down, he could have come back... he was actually having a good round at the start.

[champion4ever]

Yep... Those Wilder fights were life changing tough, for both guys. Goes to show how much a rivalry, when two legit dangerous opponents fight for keeps, can take a toll. It’s the deal. good to see someone on this thread that seems to be mostly a crcle jrk for Usyk, saw when Usyk was hurt. I would have given the fight to Usyk as well, but it was close and Fury would have done himself a favor if he just took the count when he was hurt that round. It looked worse than it was, probably affected scoring as well. If he had just went down, he could have come back... he was actually having a good round at the start.

Here’s the deal. Fury’s fight with Usyk was very eerily reminiscent of Muhammad Ali vs Leon Spinks I in the reverse.

Ali would have easily won that fight had he not spotted Spinks the first six rounds. He believed that Leon would eventually tire himself out.

However, it was Ali who tired himself out by attempting to fight that kid off of him for 15 rounds. Like Tyson Fury; Ali believed that he was the much better athlete.

However, he wasn’t. Spinks was the much better athlete. By 1978 Ali’s body had aged and his skills were declining.
Just like Usyk is a much better athlete than Tyson Fury.

Despite being more than a year and a half older than him Likewise, Fury’s body is now showing signs of decline
and aging too.

Like Ali, Fury dominated the first half of the fight but hit a wall in the second half of it. Usyk simply outhustled him in the second half of it to pull off the upset.

To sum it all up. Muhammad Ali underestimated Spinks and paid dearly for it, Just as Tyson Fury underestimated Oleksandr Usyk and paid dearly it.

Which were the key factors in both of them losing their respective bouts. Lastly, never discuss what you and your boyfriend like to do in the bedroom.

That is only for you and your husband to know. LOL, circle jerk my ass!

[JakeTheBoxer]

Can Fury win? Yes. Will he win? Probably not.

Fury did everithing right in he first fight. He has had a great training camp. He hurt Usyk early in the fight. But he still wouldn't adjust. He gassed out, started dropping his hands and almost got stopped.


Honestly, I can't see Fury doing it better while I can see Usyk avoiding getting hut next time.

[billeau2]

Here’s the deal. Fury’s fight with Usyk was very eerily reminiscent of Muhammad Ali vs Leon Spinks I in the reverse.

Ali would have easily won that fight had he not spotted Spinks the first six rounds. He believed that Leon would eventually tire himself out.

However, it was Ali who tired himself out by attempting to fight that kid off of him for 15 rounds. Like Tyson Fury; Ali believed that he was the much better athlete.

However, he wasn’t. Spinks was the much better athlete. By 1978 Ali’s body had aged and his skills were declining.
Just like Usyk is a much better athlete than Tyson Fury.

Despite being more than a year and a half older than him Likewise, Fury’s body is now showing signs of decline
and aging too.

Like Ali, Fury dominated the first half of the fight but hit a wall in the second half of it. Usyk simply outhustled him in the second half of it to pull off the upset.

To sum it all up. Muhammad Ali underestimated Spinks and paid dearly for it, Just as Tyson Fury underestimated Oleksandr Usyk and paid dearly it.

Which were the key factors in both of them losing their respective bouts. Lastly, never discuss what you and your boyfriend like to do in the bedroom.

That is only for you and your husband to know. LOL, circle jerk my ass!

Really? lol. An aged Ali ... a very smart guy thought he would tire Leon out? Ok... lol. you are a self righteous idiot. Cir cle je rk indeed! Lets see the official odds of the fight then compare a thread that states "nobody gives Fury a chance" shall we? idiot

BTW yes... Fury is not an athlete, never really has been one, he is a fighter. Usyk is both, thats about the only thing you posted that makes sense.

[billeau2]

Can Fury win? Yes. Will he win? Probably not.

Fury did everithing right in he first fight. He has had a great training camp. He hurt Usyk early in the fight. But he still wouldn't adjust. He gassed out, started dropping his hands and almost got stopped.


Honestly, I can't see Fury doing it better while I can see Usyk avoiding getting hut next time.

Fury did everything right in the first fight? Really? Geez I never wanted to defend Fury in a thread but this is ridiculous. When does any fighter fight a perfect fight? One could argue Fury did so against Vlad, and perhaps against Wilder the first time... you know when he almost got Ko'ed? Up until that point. Even in these two fights Fury could have done better.

My point is, again there is this silly general sentiment that Fury has no room to improve his strategy, blew his best load, where does this come from? This was a close fight, a split decision decided by a round...

Let me make a distinction: When El F a g (the poster) says "Fury just does not have the stamina and cannot win enough rounds," that makes sense, whether one agrees with it, or not. It is a specific area that troubled Fury. But to say that the last fight was Fury's best effort... How the fck would you, or anyone know that? Fury has fought in multiple styles, he has shown a high ring IQ, and while he has been in some bruising fights, he is technically just entering his twilight... Yes Usyk is, and always will be more athletic... So?

Since when do we conclude such a thing from a close fight, where both men were pushed hard? On what basis do you say Usyk can get better from the fight and Fury cannot? lol. I would totally understand if the fight had even been like the Usyk Joshua fights... But it wasn't, Usyk said as much.

[The D3vil]

I thought he won the first fight.

People (especially AJ stans) hate Tyson Fury because he talks a lot, so a lot of them have been rooting for anything bad to happen to him & purposely underrate him & his record to elevate AJ.

[TheOneAboveAll]

I thought he won the first fight.

People (especially AJ stans) hate Tyson Fury because he talks a lot, so a lot of them have been rooting for anything bad to happen to him & purposely underrate him & his record to elevate AJ.

Only a clinically deranged person could believe Tyson Fury won that first fight.

[The D3vil]

Only a clinically deranged person could believe Tyson Fury won that first fight.

Well, apparently one of the judges was "clinically deranged" because it was a split decision

And the other 2 judges only had it 114-113 & 115-113.

Fury only got wiped out to AJ stans & Euro stans.

It was a close fight that could've gone either way to those of us with no interests involved

[Hustle]

It feels like Usyk beating Fury in the rematch is a forgone conclusion. Why? Fury did vert well during those middle rounds and gave Usyk more difficulty than any other fighter.

Does Fury have a good shot to avenge the loss in the rematch? Are you giving Fury a good chance?

I expect fury to win the rematch.