Comments Thread For: Is Danny Garcia's Hall of Fame case on the line versus Erislandy Lara?

[champion4ever]

No! Fuck no! HOF’er my ass! The man never fought or defeated anyone good.

His resume is filled with opponents who were either overmatched or well past their primes; By the time he fought them.

That Is hardly my definition of a Hall of Fame fighter. His recorded is padded with a deluge of gatekeepers and journeymen.

[Verus]

I like Danny as a real good fighter, but the HOF is a bit of a stretch. Danny had good timing and decent power but he wasn't active in the ring. I believe he would have been a lock for that honor if he would have thrown more punches.

[champion4ever]

Hall of pretty good? Sure. HOF? No way, no signature wins, every time he stepped up, even against B class fighters, he lost. Cherry picking a title against a man 8 years past his prime is exactly what has done his entire career. Never at any point was he a top 8 PFP fighter, never, but now is he is a HOF? LOL give me a break.

Bingo! You hit the hammer right on the nail. That was well said and great post!

[champion4ever]

Fighting weaker and lesser competition for less money; No way he is Hall of Fame worthy. However, he would probably get in anyway because there is no criteria for getting in.

[champion4ever]

He fights for PBC. DSG, Thurman, Spence, Porter and a few others really reaped the benefits of the big paychecks Al was giving out in the beginning. It's hard to get out of bed and go to training camp waking up in cashmere slippers. All those WWs of that era suffered career wise from the inactivity.

As for Danny, I think he gets the W over Lara, people will say Lara was/is old. So a good defense against Jermall Charlo would be good and doable.

You are intelligent sir. There’s no way that Danny would come within a hundred yards of Jermall Charlo for fear of getting his ass whupped.

That’s the trouble with Danny Garcia’s career. He always played it safe. He hardly ever took any serious risks outside of the ring for fear of losing.

He only fought opponents that he was confident in defeating. Which is why he is fighting Lara now because he sees him as vulnerable since he is no longer in his prime.

That is what I call called cherry-picking in my judgement.

[Boricua181]

That's a tough one for me to decide on, because he let a lot of time go by when he could've been adding important wins to his resume.
He states that was because he was having Psychological issues, and I can definitely understand due to the pressures of fight, and having a father like Angel.
He's had a great career beating Campbel, Holt, Morales, Khan, Judah, Matthysee, Perterson, Guerrero, I also had him beating Thurman late, and Porter early.
He did lose to Herrera getting out boxed clearly, and Spence getting out punched clearly, so he would have to do more to turn that key, to gain entrance into the HOF.
He would have to end his career with not just a ****, but with a ****, ****, ****, in other words beating Lara, and two other fighters of significance.
Can he do it probably not, it might be to late for that, but this is boxing, and you never know until the end of the show.
I for one am rooting for Danny 'Swift' Garcia to do just that, because he's been a credit to the sport, to his community, and most importantly himself.

[HisExcellency]

Hell NO…aside from KO’ing Khan the only other notable names on his CV were faded stars like Judah & Morales plus every time he stepped up against an ELITE fighter like Thurman, Spence or Porter he lost.

[Greenfield02]

Wow! The standards of the Hall of Fame have really gone down. No way this guy is a Hall of Famer, people talk about guys like Crawford, Spence being Hall of Famer as well, no way. Can you compare these guys to the likes of Leonard, Hagler, Robinson, De la Hoya, ect ect, I could go on and on about comparing actual Hall of Famers to these dudes. Good fighters, no doubt, but not great. Not Hall of Fame. Show me your resume, not paper titles in an era of multiple titles and multiple organizations...

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Wow! The standards of the Hall of Fame have really gone down. No way this guy is a Hall of Famer, people talk about guys like Crawford, Spence being Hall of Famer as well, no way. Can you compare these guys to the likes of Leonard, Hagler, Robinson, De la Hoya, ect ect, I could go on and on about comparing actual Hall of Famers to these dudes. Good fighters, no doubt, but not great. Not Hall of Fame. Show me your resume, not paper titles in an era of multiple titles and multiple organizations...

I agree with you for the most part. IMO Crawford could have competed in other eras with great fighters. Biev is a pure monster and is in that discussion, as are Usyk and Inoue. Those guys have proven it on resume and in the manner of how they usually beat other guys soundly.

The problem is, boxing is really going off a cliff in terms of exciting prospects and future big names. The quality of fighters is so much lower at this point, Garcia has a case on just beating a few guys here and there. The talent pool is abysmal compared to previous generations.

Garcia is not a HOF fighter whatsoever in any prior generation. To me he isn't now. But he may get in just so they have names to put there in the future.

[1Eriugenus]

I don't think a lot of folk are thinking clearly. There is a huge difference between being in the HoF & being an ATG. You get in the HoF by making a major contribution to boxing so they allow managers, promoters, journalists who never got in a ring to be included! If you look at some of the boxers who were inducted early on they include Joey Giardello, Joey Maxim, Jack 'Kid' Berg & Beau Jack. None of those guys is an ATG.

Maxim was a legit, tough LHW champion & he beat SRR, albeit in strange circumstances. He probably has the best case to be considered an ATG but I would struggle to make the case. Beau Jack was hard-as-nails at LW & had some epic fights but he lost most of them. You could make a case that he struggled to get opportunities coming up, like a lot of Black boxers, & then he was faced with exceptional talent like Ike Williams & Bob Montgomery. Fact remains, I can't make a case for Jack as an ATG when his best opponents beat him. I couldn't begin to make a case for Giardello or Berg.

I think all 4 men deserve respect, all 4 made great contributions to boxing, all 4 deserve their induction. I'm just saying that I can't see why people are getting wound up over Garcia being inducted when you look at his overall body of work, even if Lara KOs him in R1.