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  • Originally posted by TintaBoricua View Post

    I don’t know if I’ve ever heard your take on them. Who do you see winning if the fight ever happens?

    Are you strictly upset about Canelo holding to the belts without fighting Benavidez (which is understandable)? Or do you just want him to get beaten and think Benavidez is the guy for the job? Cause I don’t see it.

    Cause if you want Canelo to get beaten again, Bivol is the guy you should be rooting for. Canelo gets smoked by Bivol again if it happens.

    Benavidez…eeeeh, I wouldn’t bet on it.
    The main reason I wanted the fight was because Canelo has all the belts. Would be nice to see Canelo get smashed by Benavidez also which is what I know would happen. So does Canelo, which is why he ducked him so blatantly.

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    • I don't think he's so much afraid of Benavidez, as he is terrified of going out on what would be one of his last fights and have his ass handed to him. Bad look for the legacy. But yeah, he's a bitch.

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      • Who knows, maybe Benny the Boogeyman will be the next face of boxing
        He has the resume for it

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        • Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

          The main reason I wanted the fight was because Canelo has all the belts. Would be nice to see Canelo get smashed by Benavidez also which is what I know would happen. So does Canelo, which is why he ducked him so blatantly.
          Mmmm…I can meet you halfway there. Yes, it is technically breaking the rules holding all to the belts for so long while not fighting the mandatory…but then you lost me at “Canelo getting smashed by Benavidez”…

          This is like when Chris Tucker gets physically threatened by the black guy in the Chinese get-up in Rush Hour 2.

          ”We’d love to see that. Wouldn’t we love to see that, Jackie?”

          How are you going to spin it when Benavidez gets beaten?


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          • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
            Who knows, maybe Benny the Boogeyman will be the next face of boxing
            He has the resume for it
            For real.

            Remember when Edison Miranda looked like the upcoming boogeyman of 160 and ran into The Ghost?

            Or when Nicholas Walters took out Donaire and looked like THE guy and then ran into Loma?

            Or when fans saw Jarrett Hurd coming up and overwhelming opponents with his engine swearing he was an African American version of Antonio Margarito before realizing there’s holes in the armor?

            They’re in love with power.

            I see Benavidez getting too much into his head (and being too limited in his arsenal) that it’ll work against him and he won’t be able to perform well enough to beat Canelo. I just can’t.
            Last edited by TintaBoricua; 08-22-2024, 11:46 PM.
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            • Originally posted by TintaBoricua View Post

              For real.

              Remember when Edison Miranda looked like the upcoming boogeyman of 160 and ran into The Ghost?

              Or when Nicholas Walters took out Donaire and looked like THE guy and then ran into Loma?

              Or when fans saw Jarrett Hurd coming up and overwhelming opponents with his engine swearing he was an African American version of Antonio Margarito before realizing there’s holes in the armor?

              They’re in love with power.

              I see Benavidez getting too much into his head (and being too limited in his arsenal) that it’ll work against him and he won’t be able to perform well enough to beat Canelo. I just can’t.
              Let's not forget ''ATG in the making'' Jeff Left Hook Lacy

              One Time/Sometime/Part Time had brief success

              If I were Nelo, I wouldn't let trash talk dictate who I fought.
              In fact, I'd treat all loudmouths like May did Khan.
              Keep them hanging on for that big payday that never was going to come

              Nelo vs Benny could go 1 of 2 ways -
              Nelo humbles him
              Or
              Benny catches Nelo in retirement mode and wins a UD (been in the game since 15. 65 fights later, maybe he has lost a step or that hunger)

              Nelo fought Biv to a UDL (partially due to Nelo not having a great night at the office)
              Ended Benny's best win, Plant
              Fought and beat Kov, ( > DooDoo)
              Fought and beat Mungy ( > LeMeh)
              Fought and beat Ryder ( +/- Gvoz)
              Fought and beat BHS ( > everyone Benny fought)

              And somehow, he's afraid of Benny

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              • The fan boys don't understand that if Benavidez is exposed in the future, it won't change the fact that Canelo ducked him, and will infact make his duck look worse. That he ducked a hype job! lol

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                • Gvoz
                  DooDoo
                  Plant
                  LeMeh
                  Oh my !!!!!

                  Let that be Nelo's claim to fame !

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                  • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                    Let's not forget ''ATG in the making'' Jeff Left Hook Lacy

                    One Time/Sometime/Part Time had brief success

                    If I were Nelo, I wouldn't let trash talk dictate who I fought.
                    In fact, I'd treat all loudmouths like May did Khan.
                    Keep them hanging on for that big payday that never was going to come

                    Nelo vs Benny could go 1 of 2 ways -
                    Nelo humbles him
                    Or
                    Benny catches Nelo in retirement mode and wins a UD (been in the game since 15. 65 fights later, maybe he has lost a step or that hunger)

                    Nelo fought Biv to a UDL (partially due to Nelo not having a great night at the office)
                    Ended Benny's best win, Plant
                    Fought and beat Kov, ( > DooDoo)
                    Fought and beat Mungy ( > LeMeh)
                    Fought and beat Ryder ( +/- Gvoz)
                    Fought and beat BHS ( > everyone Benny fought)

                    And somehow, he's afraid of Benny
                    Jeff Lacy is one of the shining examples of the US putting its foot COMPLETELY in its mouth and looking dumb as hell thinking they were going to cross the pond and beat a guy who already had more than a dozen title defenses at the time because a muscle head had pop. American bias right there. Also, how idiotic is it to have your best weapon in your nickname? If you want less attention and to hold on to that element of surprise, you don’t go around announcing your opponents what they need to look out for. Doesn’t matter anyway, Calzaghe/Lacy is up there as one of the most utterly one sided ass shoppings of all time over 12 rounds. Maximum mental damage. 12-0 and a knockdown to boot. Yech.

                    You could also add Tavoris Cloud in there as a power puncher that didn’t really do much even though HBO and Don King were pushing him.

                    Kelly Pavlik I probably wouldn’t put him in the category. He at least had a couple of big wins over Jermaine Taylor…though it seems for the most part punchers like these get whitewashed in their first loss or severely outpointed. Pavlik was taken to school by an ancient Hopkins and then befuddled big time by Sergio Martinez.

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                    • Originally posted by TintaBoricua View Post

                      For real.

                      Remember when Edison Miranda looked like the upcoming boogeyman of 160 and ran into The Ghost?

                      Or when Nicholas Walters took out Donaire and looked like THE guy and then ran into Loma?

                      Or when fans saw Jarrett Hurd coming up and overwhelming opponents with his engine swearing he was an African American version of Antonio Margarito before realizing there’s holes in the armor?

                      They’re in love with power.

                      I see Benavidez getting too much into his head (and being too limited in his arsenal) that it’ll work against him and he won’t be able to perform well enough to beat Canelo. I just can’t.
                      The reason why certain folk get carried away, with a particular type of fighter 'Is because they have very easy and admirable traits. I.E Aggression or being some sort of pressure fighter'.

                      People are acting like David Benavidez is some sort of Mike Tyson type fighter 'The reality is? His offense and agression is nowhere near the level of Mike Tyson'.

                      As I have stated in my previous posts, fighters like David Benavidez have existed in all boxing era's 'Especially in this modern era'.

                      Each boxing era always consist of those type of fighters, who are aggressive and ingratiate themselves with the raw competitive instincts of people in society or boxing community. There is a attraction, and fascination with competitive violence. And whatever fighters mold their game around maximum aggression and violence, they are always going to have a certain level of popularity and people will over exaggerate their abilities'.

                      Note: The issue David Benavidez has, is that? Just being aggressive, or relying upon being the big man on fight night 'Has historically not been enough, to become a genuine all-time great fighter. Or even a elite level fighter in all boxing era's'.

                      There was more than just aggression with Mike Tyson, George Foreman, Rocky Marciano, Nigel Benn, Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Jack Dempsey, Joe Frazier 'Is there that more with David Benavidez? I have not witnessed or observed a high level of sophistication with his agression or offense to date'.

                      Benavidez is for sure a World level fighter, but his entire game heavily relies upon his agression 'And being the big man on fight night. Benavidez outside of those attributes, in my opinion? Would really find it difficult in many past boxing era's, to be a top level fighter. Especially in the era's, when boxing was using the same day weigh in rule'.

                      Skill for skill David Benavidez is not a Elite level fighter 'Where as we know, that Canelo Alvarez does have certain aspects of his game which are Elite level. Even still at this stage of his career, and definitively at his peak'.

                      I have always been adamant that David Benavidez vs a Canelo Alvarez in solid form 'Benavidez has the ability to make the fight competitive, but not enough ability in the specific area's to actually win rounds consistently vs Canelo Alvarez'.

                      To conclude: Anybody that knows boxing, and understands how styles can effect the competition. They will be aware right now, that the match up between David Benavidez vs Canelo Alvarez 'Is stylistically a fight straight up Canelo Alvarez street. A solid in condition Canelo Alvarez in my opinion, would just have too much ability to win rounds consistently while displaying a by far superior defense.

                      David Benavides is a solid enough fighter, the match up between Benavidez and Alvarez is mega fight 'But stylistically on the real, it is not the most formidable challenge for Canelo Alvarez when he is in solid form' etc.

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