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  • BlackRobb
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    #91
    Originally posted by wrecksracer

    Former Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight champion Bobby Czyz is in the same class as Hard Rock Green and Animal Fletcher? Where are their legit championships in 2 weight classes? Anyway, GGG would have ducked him and fought Steve Rolls. You really can't defend his poor resume. Even after he got to be a name fighter, he chose to fight weak competition.
    GGG was avoided for years by Canelo, Jacobs and Kid Chocolate.

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      #92
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

      No, they weren't smaller. Haters are gonna hate, though. Leonard was pretty equal to Hagler's size and The Hitman had filled out by the time he fought Marvin. Oh, that first round!
      Darned site won't allow me to post the video.
      The real issue is the perception that because they moved up they were smaller... Especially with Hagler.

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      • SUBZER0ED
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        #93
        Originally posted by greeneye99

        Yea Bro
        I'm a huge TC fan & I even won 2x different $100 Bets on this site with my Crawford KO prediction
        The other dude didn't pay up & changed his Name Lol
        Spence performance wasn't no suprise I knew Crawford speed & power would hurt him
        Great call, brother! Once again, I made the cardinal mistake of not following my initial instinct. Not taking anything from Bud, but I think those accidents affected Spence.

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        • SUBZER0ED
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          #94
          Originally posted by billeau2

          The real issue is the perception that because they moved up they were smaller... Especially with Hagler.
          Yes, but Leonard was given the W, so Hagler's "size" advantage is moot. I remember that fight. I'm from Maryland too, but Leonard's W was bogus to me. That shoeshine crap he did in the final 30 seconds of each round should not have gotten him the decision.

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            #95
            Originally posted by steeve steel

            Let's see how he fares against a legit 154 in Bohachuk. Then we'll know more. Nonetheless, saying he will mow down Crawford or Tzyzu is a pretty reckless statement.

            Ya I like making speculative bets. They pay off the best and if you chose em right they hit quite often. Ortiz is a winner you’ll see. Make some money off my tip it’s free advice kid

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              #96
              Originally posted by BlackRobb

              GGG was avoided for years by Canelo, Jacobs and Kid Chocolate.
              He took the step aside money to allow Cotto vs Canelo to happen. He got played. I blame GGG and his weak management for his lackluster career. When he could finally call the shots, he fought the weakest competition he could find. Hard to tell how he would do against the greats who actually challenged themselves.

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                #97
                Originally posted by wrecksracer

                He took the step aside money to allow Cotto vs Canelo to happen. He got played. I blame GGG and his weak management for his lackluster career. When he could finally call the shots, he fought the weakest competition he could find. Hard to tell how he would do against the greats who actually challenged themselves.
                The only thing I hold against GGG is running his mouth at Ward, then never even attempting to move up to 168.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman
                  Bud should have gone up to 154 for Jermell when that feud was simmering.

                  Floyd would have.
                  Floyd would have talk s$$t, but found an excuse to swerve him

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

                    Yes, but Leonard was given the W, so Hagler's "size" advantage is moot. I remember that fight. I'm from Maryland too, but Leonard's W was bogus to me. That shoeshine crap he did in the final 30 seconds of each round should not have gotten him the decision.
                    I never look at judges as the final arbitrator for who won a fight. I am willing to say some fights, like this one, are not robberies, but truly a case can be made for either guy. My inclination is towards Hagler winning for what it is worth. I also think this fight should be compared to the Floyd Pacman fight...which would be the "Bizzaro" version.

                    In one fight you had two great fighters put it on the line... slug it out, take chances, and pretty much leave it in the ring with a great effort... In the other fight we had a sparring match, no fighter took any real risks, and people then took this material and decided someone "won" that fight. In either case, there was no domination, no sense that one guy was on another level.

                    Lol, I spent man years in Baltimore! Still have family there.
                    Last edited by billeau2; 08-10-2024, 04:02 PM.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by LAchargers373

                      Ya I like making speculative bets. They pay off the best and if you chose em right they hit quite often. Ortiz is a winner you’ll see. Make some money off my tip it’s free advice kid
                      LA... How can you bet on boxing? The judges s c r e w you! I stopped after the first Holly Lewis fight, where because of idiot Byrd the female judge I was robbed... I usually pick fights well and then some s t u p i d decision happens. I don't know how you can trust any bet with the judges being such idiots.

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