You Must Take The Win From The A-Side

[SouthpawRight]

Judging comes with a pro-bias for the a-side.

Taking the win from the a-side is the reality of the sport of boxing.

and a better phrase than taking the belt from the champ

After reviewing the fight I still have it even after the 10th

T-Bud edged out the win by peeling away the final 2 rounds.

6-4 for Israil after the 10th is possible, but then the last 2 rounds would still turn it into a draw for the a-side

[mike1010011]

When your opponent has millions upon millions of dollars pushing him towards a canelo fight,don't expect to get a fair shot.

[Joseph]

Madrimov needed a KO or a "better than Bivol" performance to eek the win, unfortunately.

Bud edged it, but at the same time I would have been completely fine calling it a draw and forcing a rematch.

[MulaKO]

Yawn yawn

[SouthpawRight]

Madrimov needed a KO or a "better than Bivol" performance to eek the win, unfortunately.

Bud edged it, but at the same time I would have been completely fine calling it a draw and forcing a rematch.

I’d be happy with an immediate rematch in November

Israil won anywhere from 5 to 6 rounds and was still competitive in the 12th to the very end

I don’t think he needed to 9 or 10 rounds like Bivol

7 to 8 and Israil would have gotten the decision imo

the precision of the scores from the judges were surprisingly good: 115-113 and 116-112

usually in close fights there’s one bad scorecard a bs 9-3 for the a-side

[crimsonfalcon07]

Kids these days...

Apparently people need to be reeducated.

The saying "to be the champ, you need to beat the champ" means that the champ retains the belt in the event of a tie, as happened recently with Navarrete v Conceicao. Nothing more. You actually have to get a decision or a stoppage as the challenger. It doesn't mean that you have to win clearly or decisively, and I want to throw hands with whichever idiot started that completely wrong take.

See Sugar Ray Leonard v Marvin Hagler for an example in which one ATG won a title as the challenger on the strength of an extremely controversial split decision.

See Conceicao v Foster for a recent example in which the B-side challenger dethroned the champion via a controversial split decision.

Anyone that subscribes to any of these takes needs to shut up and educate themselves a little about the rules and history of the sport.

[SouthpawRight]

Kids these days...

Apparently people need to be reeducated.

The saying "to be the champ, you need to beat the champ" means that the champ retains the belt in the event of a tie, as happened recently with Navarrete v Conceicao. Nothing more. You actually have to get a decision or a stoppage as the challenger. It doesn't mean that you have to win clearly or decisively, and I want to throw hands with whichever idiot started that completely wrong take.

See Sugar Ray Leonard v Marvin Hagler for an example in which one ATG won a title as the challenger on the strength of an extremely controversial split decision.

See Conceicao v Foster for a recent example in which the B-side challenger dethroned the champion via a controversial split decision.

Anyone that subscribes to any of these takes needs to shut up and educate themselves a little about the rules and history of the sport.

disagree

actual draw rulings are so rare that it’s a moot point

Geeking out and using exceptions is faulty thinking

[Hustle]

I had it 115-113 bud. And I had it 5-5 after 10 rounds..

The 11th and 12th closed the door on madrimov

[Hustle]

When your opponent has millions upon millions of dollars pushing him towards a canelo fight,don't expect to get a fair shot.

So that wasn't a fair shot and scorecards?

[crimsonfalcon07]

disagree

actual draw rulings are so rare that it’s a moot point

Geeking out and using exceptions is faulty thinking

When you actually grow up and learn something, then talk. It's in the literal rules, which you clearly don't know, not to mention being historical fact. Draws are rare, yes. One just happened on Saturday. And the rules need to explain what happens in that case.

There's thousands of examples of challengers winning belts on split decisions. Just in the past 6 months, you've had Usyk as B-side beating Fury on a split decision, Nick Ball beating Ray Ford on a split decision, Conceicao beating O'shaquie Foster on a split decision, and just Saturday, Jose Valenzuela beating Isaac Cruz on a split decision, etc. That happens ALL THE TIME.

It's very obvious you don't YDKSAB. To repeat, at least do your research before spreading these asinine takes. You are 100% factually and historically wrong.