Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford wins Israil Madrimov fight but likely loses shot at Canelo Alvarez

[mike1010011]

Has Inoue ever even faced anyone as good as Madrimov? He’s going to duck Akhmadaliev for f-ck’s sake.

Dude,don't start doing that. Nobody knew madrimov before last night,but because he gave Crawford all he could hand,and could have gotten the decision under different circumstances,you guys are making him out to be a monster.

[Rockenator]

Good all around post and I can agree with most of what you stated. Bud is definitely an elite fighter, but I disagree on him being one of the best of all time...

I think Bud gets short changed because of the opposition he fought. Or didn't fight. But this is the boxing world now. A ga-zillion belts with fights people really want not being made. Not that this didn't happen before but it's the norm now. Could Bud have beaten Hearns or Hagler? I think he could have beaten Hearns by outboxing him and wearing him down. Tommy didn't have a great chin and a couple good shots and he was out for the night. Hagler was just a beast in any era. Walking through people, getting drilled but giving more shots than receiving. I thought Bud eked out a decision and that Madrimov was very good. I'd like to see him in another marquee fight soon.

[alexnation]

lol some people here are grasping at straws trying to discredit Crawford. Haters will always be haters

[Rockenator]

I'm not saying Bud stops Canelo. Mainly because as overhyped as Canelo's career is, his chin is all time. But go back and watch Canelo's last few fights. He isn't stopping guys anymore, he doesn't take any big risks that could get him hurt, for years now.

That is where Bud has the advantage, along with height and reach. He can outbox Canelo and win a UD. He is just a better, more complete fighter. Madrimov and his team fought specifically to take away Bud's rhythym. Canelo at this point is not going to maintain that for an entire fight. Canelo has a three or four round window to jump on Bud and hurt him. It could happen.

But once Bud weathers that storm, Canelo gases like he always does and lays back to start picking his spots. Bud would take advantage of that.

Just saying if the fight does happen, all these people saying Canelo is mini hulk who will tear through Bud (who will also weigh 168) are wrong IMO.

Madrimov had a great gameplan. He is young and like many of the fighters in that area, he is tough as nails and a thinker in the ring, very talented. Huge amateur career. The hate brigade act like he is a chump.

The bias is obvious and silly.

Agreed. I do think Canelo is much easier to hit than Madrimov. Alvarez has slowed down too. Bud would have to stay on his bicycle and avoid Canelo's big shots to have a chance to win. I mean, I can understand Bud wanting to maximize his earning potential for his last fights. I don't think it would help his legacy (unless he won!) but man, it would sure fatten his retirement funds.

[Smash]

interesting

Bud yesterday was Superman and this generations SRR & up there with all the greats

Spence was a really tough opponent who elevated bud to those levels

Madrimov was some unknown might be decent guy

Now

Bud is over rate, spence was a hopeless zombie and madrimov was better than expected

[boxing IQ]

I'm not saying the right guy didn't win, but the FIX was IN


Rounds 1-3
Only 1 judge (Weisfeld) gave Madrimov the 3rd round. That's 1 out of 9 slots. No one gave Madrimov the 1st round despite landing more. Judges Villarreal & Roussell did what Weisfeld did for Canelo-Bivol and gave the A side the first 3 rounds

Rounds 4-5
Villarreal & Roussell made it obvious giving Bud all 3 first rounds, so they both gave the 4th to Madrimov when Bud won that round (Weisfeld got it right). All 3 got the 5th right and gave it to Madrimov

Rounds 6-8
Madrimov won all 3 of these rounds, but only got credit for 2 on 2 scorecards, and 1 on the 3rd

Rounds 9-10
Bud won round 9 and seemed to edge 10 (swing round). Villarreal gave both to Bud, Roussell gave both to Madrimov, and Weisfeld split them

Rounds 11-12
All 3 judges scored for Bud

story of the numbers:
Bud was never in any real danger of losing this fight by decision. For a fight THIS neck-and-neck, Bud was only DOWN on 1 SCORECARD for only 1 ROUND. That's CRAZY. According to the cards, at NO point was Madrimov ever winning the fight

Bud ought to give Madrimov the rematch Mayweather-style, but time is not on his side, and he can't risk losing the chance to get Fundora's titles

[Malvado]

It basically be T-bud against a physically bigger (three divisions bigger) and quite more skilled Mean Machine.

Might be too big of a task to pull off.

[LAchargers373]

interesting

Bud yesterday was Superman and this generations SRR & up there with all the greats

Spence was a really tough opponent who elevated bud to those levels

Madrimov was some unknown might be decent guy

Now

Bud is over rate, spence was a hopeless zombie and madrimov was better than expected

the truth is somewhere in the middle. Bud isn’t overated but people who think weight classes are irrelevant learned last night that they are not. Crawford slim decision was the right call imo. Becoming a 4 weight champion isn’t a nothing burger but I don’t rate him on the level as some of the greats before him. Not yet. If he fights 2 out of Vergil/boots/canelo in his career left and pulls out wins his legacy would
be greatly enhanced

[gluvsup]

Not a great fight after waiting for what seemed like hours for groveling boxing geezers to kiss His Excellency’s ass — “All us guys in Vegas sure do hope you like this turd-shaped trophy, Mr. Sheiky!” — and then more time on Tupperware drawings, and I’m not even gonna touch Eminem’s midlife crisis.

Madrimov’s got more funky oscillating in him than Tyson Fury exploring his inner gypsy on a vibrating motel bed. If feinting was scored, he won by a mile.

But he confused and troubled Crawford more than beat him. What he really showed is Bud’s ceiling: scraping your scalp, champ.

I’m a Bud fan since 135 but either he fights Boots or it’s goodnight. The last thing we want to see in boxing careers is too much weight making thoughtful guys way more thoughtful — and Bud’s always been a thinking man. It’s high IQ stuff, but at a certain point it’s too compromised, too wooden, too risky and too dull. No wonder Andre Ward was bouncing off the walls in delight after four rounds of this stuff, explaining to the DAZN audience how truly great it was nothing was happening. Cut to: Shakur at ringside, smiling his fool head off.

[Spartacus26]

Ok now can the illogical and silly comparisons or fantasy matchups of Crawford vs Hearnd or Leonard come to a full stop ✋?? Madrimov was Crawfords toughest fight and had he win the 11th round, he would have at least gotten a draw. Madrimov had all of 11 fights to his ledger and he made Crawford look a lot less like Superman than any opponent Bud has ever faced. Now imagine a legend and well documented power hitter like Hearns putting those feints on Crawford and constantly putting that electric jab in Buds face, and landing HIS right hand the way Madrimov was landing his own with regularity??Or Leonard who had the best legs and FOOTWORK in the business along with killer speed, nasty hard combination punching and a top tier IQ?? My counsel to Crawford cheer leaders is to drop a thousand and come back down to earth with this best of all times stuff and focus more on the SPORT and Not let idolatry take you to weird places.