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  • #91
    Originally posted by Hustle View Post

    Bud and boots ain't in the same division. Inoue and mj are. And triangle theories don't work.

    Taylor beat Hopkins. Pavlik beat Taylor. Hopkins beat Pavlik.

    Cotto beat mosley, margarito beat cotto, Mosley beat Margarito.

    styles make fights, not such and such beat such and such so I'm better than such and such.
    Lol MJ never wanted to fight Inoue, since he didn't accept terms for Tokyo fight. It was Eddie Hearn running with the narrative that Inoue is ducking him. The reality is that Inoue was supposed to fight Goodman but Goodman ducked and TJ was Goodman's replacement.

    AJ's mandatory was activated to try and get Inoue as an undercard. That is a scumbag move that the PBC usually pulls for some step-aside money. Mj and Eddie never wanted a fight in tokyo, they just wanted step-aside money since the Tokyo date has been booked by Inoue.

    That's why Inoue said he felt harassed by Eddie and MJ. But to bad for them Inoue is WBA super champion, and super champion only defend their title after 18 months. So in the end Eddie and MJ didn't even get the step-aside that they wanted lol.

    Since Eddie pulled this stunt, he might have burned his bridges with Inoue. Now I'm not sure how Eddie's gonna negotiate with Inoue for a fight.
    Last edited by BoxWhere; 08-05-2024, 04:17 AM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post

      You at it again, groupie?

      Inoue wins fights by domination and KOs

      Soo, that hasn't been Bud's MO up until last night? Bud's longest KO streak is 11, Inoue's is 8. How many of those fighters that he KO'd were p4p? Better yet, how many can the average fight fan name? Lol

      Inoue beat 15 champs and won 22 title fights all in only 27 fights. Crawford beat 10 champs and won 19 title fights in 41 fights.

      You forgot to mention the part where he skipped a whole division of Estrada-Gonzalez-Rungvisai-Cuadras without fighting any of them. Surely, they were champions at the time, no? Why are they not on this list? Bud never skipped anything but breakfast to train

      Crawford lost more rounds in 1 fight then Inoue did in his entire career

      Lol wow. Bud lost 5-6 rounds, but according to you, Inoue hasn't lost that many with Taguchi, Donaire, Nery, or the other 23 opponents? Unrelated question, but where did you go to school?

      From your username to randomly popping up knight and shield, you have an unhealthy relationship with Inoue. Because if you really think Bud's a fraud over one bad night at the office, YDKSAB
      Holy SHlT don't tell me that you are one of those idiots who thinks inoue skipped chocolatito, Estrada, Rungvisai, and Cuadras BS.

      Dude it seems like you don't know anything that happened at lowerweight from 2015 to 2017. I will gave you the full context of what happened during that time of lowerweight boxing from 2015 to 2017.

      At the time there was no such thing as 4 kings. It was just inoue and chocolatito. Inoue was 2 divison champion and chocolatito was 3 divison champion. Estrada, Rungvisai, and Cuadras were all just small or no name 1 divison champion, especially Rungvisai and Cuadras.

      At the time Inoue had beaten 3 Ring no 1 ranked fighter and was the no 1 ranked fighter at 115, by both The Ring and TBRB. While chocolatito was the p4p no 1 ranked fighter. The fight every hardcore boxing fans wanted to see was inoue vs chocolatito. This was lowerweight's Canelo vs GGG.

      But 1 desicion from chocolatito would change everything. It was that instead of fighting inoue, he would fight Cuadras. Which he won, then he would fight rungvisai and lose. That set everything in motion because Cuadras had beaten Rungvisai previously by TD.

      And then Rungvisai gained name by knocking out chocolatito in rematch. later Estrada would beat Cuadras and fight rungvisai. Rungvisai wins the fight but loses the rematch.

      And since chocolatito had beaten Estrada in the past, it let to the whole 4 kings being created and it set the loophole of 4 guys just fighting for wbc belt and keeping inoue out. So inorder to not stall his career inoue moved to 118 for WBSS.

      And inoue only lost 2 rounds to donaire, lost 1 rounds to nery and 1 to Taguchi, and that's it. Inoue has been so dominant that he makes champs look like bums. And this fool is talking about KOs, when bud has never flat line guys like inoue and Gervonta have. All bud has is Ref stopping his fights for him, he can never flat line anyone. Ofcourse you wouldn't know any of this, since you are a budsexaul.
      Last edited by BoxWhere; 08-06-2024, 04:58 PM.
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      • #93
        See bud, stepping up and fighting belt holders without acclimatising like inoue does isn't easy.
        Inoue stops them while winning relatively straightforwardly. When comparing like for like, it's probably fair inoue ahead
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        • #94
          Originally posted by robbyheartbaby View Post
          Dude honestly get the f*** off this forum and go watch another sport you’re making a fool out of yourself for real
          Get your face out of Crawford’s ass and smell the coffee moronic bandwagon rétard.
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          • #95
            There is ABSOLUTELY no scenario in which Crawford beats Alvarez, and this is coming from a Crawford fan. As Terence said out of his own mouth, "We have weight classes for a reason." Canelo is too big, too strong, too skilled to be beat by a 147/154 pounder... that is not going to happen until Canelo is past his prime. The fight for Terence is against Ortiz. He will make less money, but he will still make very good money, nonetheless.
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            • #96
              Crawford vs Ortiz does sound like a great fight. Canelo vs Crawford is one of the biggest fantasy fights that can be made right now. But that’s all it is, a fantasy fight. Just like Tank vs Inoue. Sometimes these fantasy fights happen, most of the time they don’t. The most important thing is, if they don’t happen, then we need to see the alternatives. And i’m okay with that.

              The alternative to these fantasy fights are still great. Crawford vs Ortiz, Tank vs Stevenson

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              • #97
                Originally posted by JOITATS View Post

                NO We’re talking about going for belts.

                Inoue was fighting for the belt that Tapales earned by beating MJ. He got no reason to fight MJ, cuz he doesnt have any belts.

                Ennis has a belt, that Bud opted not to defend.


                Bud said he was leaving 147 after undisputed. And he moved up exactly like he said he would after spence. Bud don't owe no Welterweight a fight because he no longer fights there.

                Inoue is at 122 with no opponent on paper available That's better than mj. Nobody at 122 has a belt. So that's a dumb ass excuse. Anybody inoue picks won't have a belt, so why not the best available guy at 122 which is mj, the only former champ at 122 that inoue hasn't fought.

                Styles make fights. Not oh he beat him and i beat him so im the best. Triangle theories dont work.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

                  Holy **** don't tell me that you are one of those idiots who thinks inoue skipped chocolatito, Estrada, Rungvisai, and Cuadras BS.

                  Dude it seems like you don't know anything that happened at lowerweight from 2015 to 2017. I will gave you the full context of what happened during that time of lowerweight boxing from 2015 to 2017.

                  At the time there was no such thing as 4 kings. It was just inoue and chocolatito. Inoue was 2 divison champion and chocolatito was 3 divison champion. Estrada, Rungvisai, and Cuadras were all just small or no name 1 divison champion, especially Rungvisai and Cuadras.

                  At the time Inoue had beaten 3 Ring no 1 ranked fighter and was the no 1 ranked fighter at 115, by both The Ring and TBRB. While chocolatito was the p4p no 1 ranked fighter. The fight every hardcore boxing fans wanted to see was inoue vs chocolatito. This was lowerweight's Canelo vs GGG.
                  But 1 desicion from chocolatito would change everything. It was that instead of fighting inoue, he would fight Cuadras. Which he won, then he would fight rungvisai and lose. That set everything in motion because Cuadras had beaten Rungvisai previously by TD.

                  And then Rungvisai gained name by knocking out chocolatito in rematch. later Estrada would beat Cuadras and fight rungvisai. Rungvisai wins the fight but loses the rematch.

                  And since chocolatito had beaten Estrada in the past, it let to the whole 4 kings being created and it set the loophole of 4 guys just fighting for wbc belt and keeping inoue out. So inorder to not stall his career inoue moved to 118 for WBSS.

                  And inoue only lost 2 rounds to donaire, lost 1 rounds to nery and 1 to Taguchi, and that's it. Inoue has been so dominant that he makes champs look like bums. And this fool is talking about KOs, when bud has never flat line guys like inoue and Gervonta have. All bud has is Ref stopping his fights for him, he can never flat line anyone. Ofcourse you wouldn't know any of this, since you are a bud***aul.
                  You're a little f***ing turd, Jin, but I can appreciate your insight
                  From 2015-2017, the whole 115 lb division was heating up with Gonzalez as p4p and the other 3 reaching their primes. Inoue's no duck, but how his career was managed, his team knew he wasn't ready for that smoke. Those guys fought, won, and lost to each other because they're all that good. Inoue was popular enough back then to hold his own at the negotiating table, maybe, bring some of those guys to Japan. But he wasn't quite there yet and by leaving the division prematurely, he missed the legacy fights to add some real name recognition to his resume. There were no p4ps at 118, much less any real threats outside of who, an old Donaire?

                  I bring it up because you said he outnumbers Bud in titles won & champs beaten, but there's no comparison when it comes to the quality of opposition, especially when Inoue could have erased any doubt by sticking around 115 where as Bud steamrolled through every champ willing to fight him in every weight class he's been in

                  I still can't believe you're trying to push the notion that Inoue has lost less rounds in his whole career than Bud did last night lol, but hey man, it's all good
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

                    Lol nery 2 division champion and Ring ****zine champion. While Madrimov is a guy with 10 fights. Also how can duck someone who git beat up by the guy he ko'd. Are you dumb or just pretending. Also MJ is the one who is ducking since he is not accepting inoue's terms, even though he is the b-side.
                    Floyd was accused of ducking Pacquiao even after Marquez knocked out Pacquiao and Floyd had already beat up Marquez

                    Remember?

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                    • Originally posted by Hustle View Post

                      Floyd was accused of ducking Pacquiao even after Marquez knocked out Pacquiao and Floyd had already beat up Marquez

                      Remember?
                      Dude you are not getting it, MJ never wanted to fight Inoue, since he didn't accept terms for Tokyo fight. It was Eddie Hearn running with the narrative that Inoue is ducking him. The reality is that Inoue was supposed to fight Goodman but Goodman ducked and TJ was Goodman's replacement.

                      AJ's mandatory was activated to try and get Inoue as an undercard. That is a scumbag move that the PBC usually pulls for some step-aside money. Mj and Eddie never wanted a fight in tokyo, they just wanted step-aside money since the Tokyo date has been booked by Inoue.

                      That's why Inoue said he felt harassed by Eddie and MJ. But to bad for them Inoue is WBA super champion, and super champion only defend their title after 18 months. So in the end Eddie and MJ didn't even get the step-aside money that they wanted lol.

                      Since Eddie pulled this stunt, he might have burned his bridges with Inoue. Now I'm not sure how Eddie's gonna negotiate with Inoue for a future fight.
                      Last edited by BoxWhere; 08-07-2024, 11:34 AM.

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