Do you think Canelo beats Benavidez?

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If Canelo Alvarez is in solid form, the fight will be a easier more straight forward fight 'Than certain folk are anticipating'.

David Benavidez is a solid fighter, stylistically his traits as a fighter 'Are the traits which can easily effect the perception of observers, and make them believe that at World and Elite level Benavidez is going to be a monster fighter'.

In reality? Just being agressive, and relying upon being the big man on fight night 'That combination of attributes alone, has never really produced genuine all-time great fighters'.

Fighters like David Benavidez skill for skill, although for sure he is a World level fighter 'He is in my opinion not a elite level fighter, when you actually analyse his attributes'.

Canelo Alvarez regardless of what people may think of him 'Has proven throughout his career, that he is a elite level fighter skill for skill in certain area's of his game. Alvarez has fought many opponent's who are actually superior fighters to Benavidez skill for skill by far'.

When James Toney moved up into the Heavyweight Division 'Toney would continually reiterated, that these Heavyweight fighters are not the best fighters he has ever fought. James Toney referenced fighters such as Michael Nunn, and Mike McCallum as just some of the superior fighters he has fought in the lower weight classes'.

David Benavidez from my observation is not rated in the top-5 best skill for skill fighters Canelo Alvarez has ever fought. Floyd Mayweather Junior, Shane Mosely, Gennedy Golovkin, Miguel Cotto, Erislandy Lara, Dmitry Bivol, Austin Trout, Amir Khan, seriously? All of those fighters skill for skill are superior fighters to David Benavidez.

Yes, Amir Khan skill for skill at his peak was a better fighter than David Benavidez 'Khan was a Olympic Silver medalist. Amir Khan's durability was not his best attributes, but event still this did not hold him back or deny him from achieving great feats in his career. Fighters can only achieve those sort of feats, when fundamentally skill for skill they have genuine top level ability'.

Note: David Benavidez is a easy fighter to like and admire, his style is aggressive which 'Is instinctively going to make him popular with certain folk. But lets all get this right? David Benavidez is aggressive, but he is not agressive like Mike Tyson'.

There is no real high level sophistication in Benavidez violence 'We have not seen a elite level sophistication in his violence in any of his fights. David Benavidez is aggressive because those are the tactics in the lower weight classes for which his game relies upon, he is the big man on fight night due to his tactic of weight draining himself extensively'.

To conclude: In regard to the actual match up, I have always been of the opinion 'That stylistically David Benavidez is straight up Canelo Alvarez's street. Benavidez has all the attributes to make it a competitive fight, but not the specific attributes and skills to a high level? To win vs Canelo Alvarez when he is in solid form'.

I have not seen any elite level attributes or skills within David Benavidez as a fighter, but for sure he is a World level fighter. And ultimately that is the difference between David Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez 'Alvarez in some area's of his game when in solid form is a elite level fighter. Alvarez overall as a fighter is not on the level of Floyd Mayweather Junior or Manny Pacquiao, but definitely throughout his career he has proven that certain aspects of his game are elite level'.

And I believe if David Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez was to ever fight 'It is those elite level skills and attributes which would show up, and win the fight for Alvarez' etc.

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I do not disagree... Except perhaps defining "new." At least since the days of Leonard and Hagler things have been inclining that way... If that is new to you so be it.

I am not excusing anyone just looking for the root of the problems to be be destroyed. Fighters will fight the best if they have to... The reading comp here is really bad, and so is the sense of control... My posts have always suggested that instead of crying like you are about a fighter YOUR A FAN DON'T BUY THE FIGHT! I keep saying it lol. 'And no Canelo is no better or worse than the rest of them.

People hate the s c u m bag Paul brothers and I agree... But they sell fights that casuals like to see. Why can't boxers sell fights? Like De La Hoya did? etc. And why can't fans not buy the overpriced PPV's? I don't lol...

Well, if you can see my tears, good for you. I don't cry about any fighter, as a fan I ask for that fighter to fight his mandatory or vacate, and I don't pay if I don't get the right service in return, having watched a canelo fight in years. If you compare canelo to Paul, You have already proved my point. As a professional boxer, they have responsibilities to their fan, which canelo forgot. Paul is not a boxer, he's an influencer who has found a niche to make millions with the new generation, millennials, and Z. He would have not survived before the 90s. We love real boxing. Be safe.

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Govdyk is not C level. Mungia is though and Canelo lost at least 4 rounds to him. lol.

A level - champ
B level - contender
C level - non-contender




Gvozdyk is C level at this point. Mungia would be odds on favorite against Gvozdyk if they fight rn. this is a fact.

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Well, if you can see my tears, good for you. I don't cry about any fighter, as a fan I ask for that fighter to fight his mandatory or vacate, and I don't pay if I don't get the right service in return, having watched a canelo fight in years. If you compare canelo to Paul, You have already proved my point. As a professional boxer, they have responsibilities to their fan, which canelo forgot. Paul is not a boxer, he's an influencer who has found a niche to make millions with the new generation, millennials, and Z. He would have not survived before the 90s. We love real boxing. Be safe.

Mandatories are straw men. It gives fighters who really fought the worse competition an "out." the Klits always fought their mandatories, or at least generally... Lewis made a point of fighting the best, mandatory, or not. Lewis fought great competition compared to the Klits. Sometimes a mandatory is the right fight, other times it is shiat.

I agree about the Lumox brothers: If you deconstruct these two they are criminals, scammers, they do not have the gravitas that Andrew Tate has... Tate really has special charms while the Paul brothers are lumoxes. My wife told me "Honey those are the guys you stay away from in High School" lol. Yet these two manage to sell fights. WHAT COULD A FIGHTER LIKE SHAKUR do? If he applied himself the same way? Ryan... Tank... Bud... these guys could do it if the lumox brothers can do it, that is my point. So yeah not every fighter could do what Tate is capable of, but they certainly imo could do what the Paul Brothers do! minus the scams lol.

I would not want you to think I am calling either of these brothers "boxers" in the conventional sense, only that sometimes one needs to see the reality of how social media can be a promoter... for real fighters.

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Mandatories are straw men. It gives fighters who really fought the worse competition an "out." the Klits always fought their mandatories, or at least generally... Lewis made a point of fighting the best, mandatory, or not. Lewis fought great competition compared to the Klits. Sometimes a mandatory is the right fight, other times it is shiat.

I agree about the Lumox brothers: If you deconstruct these two they are criminals, scammers, they do not have the gravitas that Andrew Tate has... Tate really has special charms while the Paul brothers are lumoxes. My wife told me "Honey those are the guys you stay away from in High School" lol. Yet these two manage to sell fights. WHAT COULD A FIGHTER LIKE SHAKUR do? If he applied himself the same way? Ryan... Tank... Bud... these guys could do it if the lumox brothers can do it, that is my point. So yeah not every fighter could do what Tate is capable of, but they certainly imo could do what the Paul Brothers do! minus the scams lol.

I would not want you to think I am calling either of these brothers "boxers" in the conventional sense, only that sometimes one needs to see the reality of how social media can be a promoter... for real fighters.

I agreed, some mandatories are worthless, see ryder and berlanga, others are worthy, see benavidez and Morrell jr. My point is that canelo should have fought a least one of those two, or just vacate and let sort it out by themselves. By the way, those brothers sell a circus and boxing is a theater. The fighters that you're mentioning would became clowns in the same circus, just give them time. Like I said, I don't watch the brothers nor canelo.

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I honestly have no track into the Freudian underbelly of Canelo's mind... Presumptious as it might be, I do not believe you do either...

I'll allow that. but this is a forum, so we're inclined to opine. I'm sure some of the pros come to this site and laugh at what we can only guess about them. But one thing that I can say with confidence, is that Saul "Canelo" Alvarez has not offered to fight David "The Mexican Monster" Benavidez to date, for whatever the reason(s). And I opine that the more time passes, the less likely it is that Alvarez will face him.

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I used to think he'd steam roll him since canelos declining

but benavidez power looked pretty average at 175

Did you not see the mountain of a man he was trying to chop down? While Benny couldn't seem to really hurt Gvozdyk, he stung him enough to keep him on the defensive.

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A level - champ
B level - contender
C level - non-contender




Gvozdyk is C level at this point. Mungia would be odds on favorite against Gvozdyk if they fight rn. this is a fact.

The munguia victory is not going to age well. Be patience.

[Oracle01]

A level - champ
B level - contender
C level - non-contender




Gvozdyk is C level at this point. Mungia would be odds on favorite against Gvozdyk if they fight rn. this is a fact.

Last year, Mungia went life and death and was almost knocked out by inactive 38 year old, 5'8 devachenko, and you think he would be fav vs Gvozdyk. You love saying silly stuff don't you? lol

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Last year, Mungia went life and death and was almost knocked out by inactive 38 year old, 5'8 devachenko, and you think he would be fav vs Gvozdyk. You love saying silly stuff don't you? lol

Gvozdyk is 40 yrs old. and retired for 5 yrs.