and to think that 6+ years ago the same was said about Mosley when he lost twice to Forrest...
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post1) cotto got wobbled more than 3x.
2) he lost to mosley... arguably lost to clottey (i thought he won) and got beat up by margarito.
3) he balloons up to 170 or so when not in training
5) and unlike vargas he got on his knees and quit... better to go out on your shield!
bwahahahahahaha! j/k dude... cotto is better than vargas, but vargas has anger management issues and a thyroid problem.
but at 154 a prime vargas beats cotto.Does this mean he is right and you are wrong then??????
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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Postnah man. If he gets rocked by pacquiao it's because pacquiao is a big time puncher.
People need to realize that, pacquiao isn't a small little dude in the ring, he's got big time punch.
If Cotto almost survived plaster, I'm sure he would've taken Pacquiaos shots, but after that and the Clottey fight I wouldn't bet on it.
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Originally posted by Punch Out View PostIf Cotto almost survived plaster, I'm sure he would've taken Pacquiaos shots, but after that and the Clottey fight I wouldn't bet on it.come again????
I think the question is a fair one....They way Cotto's career has gone so far....he maybe the Puerto Rican version of the Mexican Vargas.....im just saying.....
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Originally posted by RicDaRula View Postcome again????
I think the question is a fair one....They way Cotto's career has gone so far....he maybe the Puerto Rican version of the Mexican Vargas.....im just saying.....
vargas had the tools & skills to become one of the best... but he was poorly managed. his fastrack career was a big mistake.
top rank did a much better job.. and just for that... cotto is not ending like vargas.
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Originally posted by mellow_mood View PostI know what u mean.. But i have to disagree.. since cotto's career have been taken or driven way better than vargas...
vargas had the tools & skills to become one of the best... but he was poorly managed. his fastrack career was a big mistake.
top rank did a much better job.. and just for that... cotto is not ending like vargas.
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Originally posted by RicDaRula View Post**** I really hope you are right.....
Not saying that he has faced better opposition than vargas.. cos its obviously that vargas > cotto in that department..
but hes on the right path to acomplish more than him...
we can start by saying hes a 2 div. champ ..vargas is not.
not because he is or was better than vargas.. but due to how their careers were developed...
he now has a chance to take the #1 spot in boxing if he beats pac... and if thats the case...
its a wrap!!! he def accomplished more!
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Originally posted by Princemanspopa View PostLMAO at all the newbs commenting on Fernando Vargas's career in this thread.If you are ****** and ignorant on a topic then don't open your ****ing mouth on the subject.
You are a complete moron,Vargas was washed up and weight drained by the time Mosley got him and even then Mosley struggled badly against him in their first fight and in their second fight,Vargas had to kill himself to make weight,Mayorga doesn't need any explaining and only newbs such as yourself believe that it counted for anything.
A prime Trinidad got taken to hell and back against a 22 year old Vargas who had just twenty professional bout and god knows how long it took for Oscar to fight Vargas.
In his first twenty professional bouts Vargas fought and beat
Luis Ramon Campas
Raul Marquez
Ronald Wright
Ike Quartey
Trying to degrade Cotto like the TS is doing on the back of the Margo loss is ******ed.
The mans a quality fighter. As a newbie to this board it seems it's mutually exclusive to like one fighter and still rate another/rival fighter.
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