Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao targets 'very winnable' Mario Barrios fight ahead of 46th birthday

[crimsonfalcon07]

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I’m in agreement. Sadly, I was in the DK Yoo bandwagon when I watched his videos. He had all the right moves, stances, strikes etc. as a martial artist, I was hoping to see more than what he was putting out.

What a letdown lol

Really reinforces the point that martial arts without pressure testing is essentially just dancing. He had ZERO fight IQ, and all the excuses he would make about how he was injured and could only use 10% or whatever just made him look more like a fraud.

In contrast, while I don't have much respect for Wing Chun as a martial art despite its current popularity, having gotten to train with Francis Fong personally at a seminar he taught at my old gym, I got a lot more appreciation for the good points it has. He is very good at integrating things like takedowns and aspects of other martial arts into the style, and is crazy fast without requiring canned attacks for the demo. I think a lot comes down to the practitioner and how aware they are about the weaknesses inherent in their art.

[Oregonian]

Really reinforces the point that martial arts without pressure testing is essentially just dancing. He had ZERO fight IQ, and all the excuses he would make about how he was injured and could only use 10% or whatever just made him look more like a fraud.

In contrast, while I don't have much respect for Wing Chun as a martial art despite its current popularity, having gotten to train with Francis Fong personally at a seminar he taught at my old gym, I got a lot more appreciation for the good points it has. He is very good at integrating things like takedowns and aspects of other martial arts into the style, and is crazy fast without requiring canned attacks for the demo. I think a lot comes down to the practitioner and how aware they are about the weaknesses inherent in their art.

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I usually tell people that the one who trains the hardest is the best Martial Artist so yes, without proper pressure testing, it’s all for naught.
I hate when I see martial artists with different styles challenging each other to fights. It is the dumbest thing ever.

[crimsonfalcon07]

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I usually tell people that the one who trains the hardest is the best Martial Artist so yes, without proper pressure testing, it’s all for naught.
I hate when I see martial artists with different styles challenging each other to fights. It is the dumbest thing ever.

Depends on the purpose. When it's for ego and "who's better", I'm right there with you. If it's about exchanging information and learning more from each other and improving your own skill and style, there's a lot to be said for it. What is your primary style? I started many years ago in a generic kung fu, but transitioned to more of a Muay Thai/MMA style, like many these days, for the fights I've had. I learned so much from those fights, especially against guys from other disciplines, about myself and about the commonalities between styles, that never would have occurred to me if I hadn't been willing to get in the ring and try.

One thing I think Bruce Lee really got right was the adage: "adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is uniquely your own." I learned a new way of making a fist from Systema that has really reduced my risk of wrist injuries, for instance, even though Systema as a whole seems very bullshido.

[Oregonian]

Depends on the purpose. When it's for ego and "who's better", I'm right there with you. If it's about exchanging information and learning more from each other and improving your own skill and style, there's a lot to be said for it. What is your primary style? I started many years ago in a generic kung fu, but transitioned to more of a Muay Thai/MMA style, like many these days, for the fights I've had. I learned so much from those fights, especially against guys from other disciplines, about myself and about the commonalities between styles, that never would have occurred to me if I hadn't been willing to get in the ring and try.

One thing I think Bruce Lee really got right was the adage: "adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is uniquely your own." I learned a new way of making a fist from Systema that has really reduced my risk of wrist injuries, for instance, even though Systema as a whole seems very bullshido.

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I agree. For training purpose and zero ego, it can be very beneficial to all parties involved. I’ve seen too much of the opposite on YouTube many times.
I started with Goju-Ryu at 15 and years later after moving to NY, I got into Kyokushin. Now, I’m doing a lot more grappling/MMA and boxing - less injuries.

Bullshido! That was good lol … I don’t really know much about Systema.

[Roadblock]

But why is a old guy fighting such a talented guy a good thing? You won't expect lennox Lewis to comeback and fight Jared anderson.
Yes, floyd Does exhibitions now but when Floyd was active, wasn't floyd fighting bud, thurman, spence a good viewing experience, that could help future superstar, it's called passing torch?

If floyd came back now you wouldn't expect him to fight ennis. You'd expect floyd to fight another old timer.
Bud found enough excuses to not fight Ennis, whether they were valid is open for debate. Pac s reasons to not go anywhere near Bud or Ennis would be valid.

If Floyd came back now Id expect him to pick Barrios and win an easy UD, you just cant help yourself lol.

[crimsonfalcon07]

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I agree. For training purpose and zero ego, it can be very beneficial to all parties involved. I’ve seen too much of the opposite on YouTube many times.
I started with Goju-Ryu at 15 and years later after moving to NY, I got into Kyokushin. Now, I’m doing a lot more grappling/MMA and boxing - less injuries.

Bullshido! That was good lol … I don’t really know much about Systema.

Had a friend who was a Kyokyushin black belt. Have, to this day, never seen anyone who could hit harder pound for pound. I think the major deficiency is that they don't permit head strikes and develop bad muscle memory. Learned a lot about structure from him though. It's probably good you don't know much about systema. It's pretty wild.

[Oregonian]

Had a friend who was a Kyokyushin black belt. Have, to this day, never seen anyone who could hit harder pound for pound. I think the major deficiency is that they don't permit head strikes and develop bad muscle memory. Learned a lot about structure from him though. It's probably good you don't know much about systema. It's pretty wild.

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Kyokyushin is brutal. A black belt from that school is way tougher on average. I was never a fan of the fights especially as I got older.
Ever heard of Seido? It stems from Kyokyushin and it started out in the 70’s and got really huge but with concerned parents, lawsuits and just society getting softer with each generation, it got soft too.

[Haka]

If Floyd came back now Id expect him to pick Barrios and win an easy UD, you just cant help yourself lol.

You are getting a bit delirious, Castillo was close to winning, could have gone either way. Maidana had a razor close fight, and isn’t a star boxer but a natural 140lber. Cotto fight was not a walkover at all. You are way too caught up on that zero.

[Roadblock]

You are getting a bit delirious, Castillo was close to winning, could have gone either way. Maidana had a razor close fight, and isn’t a star boxer but a natural 140lber. Cotto fight was not a walkover at all. You are way too caught up on that zero.

****** post none of them are like Barrios and he would give Barrios a boxing lesson, Castillo lol 25 yrs ago lol, Im caught up on styles and you still havent figured it lol.