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  • Oregonian
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    #121
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

    We all already know that you hate Bud like he cucked you. Your level of irrationality about it is wild, as are your double standards. You're over here trying to bag on Bud's resume, but overlooking the even lower quality of Ennis'.

    At 27, Bud's resume included a 3 division world champion, an Olympic medalist and two time world champion, and a guy who went on to win a world title, and the Ring and lineal championship. Ennis, in contrast, has only old Lipinets for anyone within shouting distance of world honors, who won a vacant title and lost it in his very first title defense. Ennis' opponents have a 62% win rate. His resume is crap, but you pretend he's the next coming. Bud fighting him would be like 37 year old Mayweather fighting a 27 year old Bud, except with fewer (no) accomplishments.

    We all know you can't see the obvious because you're blinded by your hate for Crawford, and it's pathetic.
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    I’m always up for a boxing discourse. It’s why we’re here. In your case, you just personified your response with juvenile delinquency.
    So, I’m going to respond in kind - go FCUK your mom. Such a scrotum licking idiot

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    • Oregonian
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      #122
      Originally posted by Gary Coleman

      There's a reason you aren't listing their names.

      Robert Guerrero was a 4 weight world champ (if you count the interims) when Floyd fought him and nobody is holding that victory in high regard.
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      You are arguing with a basement dwelling íncel buffoon. She will just double down on her argument.

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        #123
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

        Still better than anyone on Ennis' resume. Way to miss the point...

        And Burns was a perfectly good win. He was ranked #4 by Ring going into the fight with Bud. Beltran v Bud was for Ring/lineal. And Gamboa is still one of the best names on the resumes of guys like Tank Davis, Haney, and Isaac Cruz... You really want to argue that there's anyone on Ennis' record that's better? His signature wins are Lipinets, Roiman Villa, and Avanesyan... SMH.
        There's nothing wrong with any of Bud's wins. Wins are wins. They're just not elite or top tier guys. Is what it is.

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        • factsarenice
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          #124
          Originally posted by Oregonian
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          Was it hard to decipher Crawford’s reasoning behind unifying 135 and 140 division?
          Hoe about 154? Crawford’s looking to do that too if he doesn’t get Canelo.
          Not an easy answer but honestly, when Spence locked in Fundora at 154 and Leonard Ellerbe implied that the fix was in, it seemed like the PBC was going to freeze Crawford out again and Canelo was my 2nd choice but unifying at 154lb was always my 1st.

          Now that Spence isn't fighting Sebastian Fundora and Sebastian claims to be interested in fighting Terrance Crawford there is a chance to win the WBA, WBO and the WBC belts. All this assumes that Terrance Crawford will beat Madrimov and that is not guaranteed. Like it or not, Madrimov is the strongest, most athletic, best current belt holder at Jr Middleweight.
          Last edited by factsarenice; 07-25-2024, 11:10 PM.

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            #125
            Originally posted by factsarenice

            Not an easy answer but honestly, when Spence locked in Fundora at 154 and Leonard Ellerbe implied that the fix was in, it seemed like the PBC was going to freeze Crawford out again and Canelo was my 2nd choice but unifying at 154lb was always my 1st.

            Now that Spence isn't fighting Sebastian Fundora and Sebastian claims to be interested in fighting Terrance Crawford there is a chance to win the WBA, WBO and the WBC belts. All this assumes that Terrance Crawford will beat Madrimov and that is not guaranteed. Like it or not, Madrimov is the strongest, most athletic, best current belt holder at Jr Middleweight.
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            I don’t disagree with you. I was responding to the guy that came to this conclusion, “ Hard to decipher Eddie's reasoning behind Ennis unifying at 147​”.

            Unifying 135, 140 and 147 is what’s made Bud an ATG and he’s about to do that at 154.

            Boots unifying 147 will put him in the same path Bud embarked on. After that Boots can move to 154. It’s pretty much what Bud did but somehow Boots is being asked to move up to 154 to “prove” himself.

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              #126
              Originally posted by Oregonian
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              I don’t disagree with you. I was responding to the guy that came to this conclusion, “ Hard to decipher Eddie's reasoning behind Ennis unifying at 147​”.

              Unifying 135, 140 and 147 is what’s made Bud an ATG and he’s about to do that at 154.

              Boots unifying 147 will put him in the same path Bud embarked on. After that Boots can move to 154. It’s pretty much what Bud did but somehow Boots is being asked to move up to 154 to “prove” himself.
              This might be the first time I've agreed with you. Nothing wrong with Ennis unifying 147 and paving his own path. If he can get a few signature wins fast enough, it makes a Bud fight more feasible. Believe it or not, I DO want to see him be successful. I just want him to actually step up in competition before I anoint him the future of boxing.

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                #127
                Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

                This might be the first time I've agreed with you. Nothing wrong with Ennis unifying 147 and paving his own path. If he can get a few signature wins fast enough, it makes a Bud fight more feasible. Believe it or not, I DO want to see him be successful. I just want him to actually step up in competition before I anoint him the future of boxing.
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                There is also the possibility the Saudis can offer untold millions to Boots and Bud perhaps next year. By then Boots might have another trinket on his waist.

                On a separate note, One of the reasons I’d like to see Bud vs Canelo is two-folds - Canelo is out rightly ducking Benavidez. I like Canelo but a duck is a duck. I’m still not sure Bud beats him but I’ll be rooting for him. It would be monumental for Bud and embarrassing for Canelo. That loss would free up all the belts because I think Crawford would retire after that fight. I mean, I would hope he does ride off to the sunset.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Oregonian
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                  There is also the possibility the Saudis can offer untold millions to Boots and Bud perhaps next year. By then Boots might have another trinket on his waist.

                  On a separate note, One of the reasons I’d like to see Bud vs Canelo is two-folds - Canelo is out rightly ducking Benavidez. I like Canelo but a duck is a duck. I’m still not sure Bud beats him but I’ll be rooting for him. It would be monumental for Bud and embarrassing for Canelo. That loss would free up all the belts because I think Crawford would retire after that fight. I mean, I would hope he does ride off to the sunset.
                  Amen to that too. Agreed on all counts.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    I don’t disagree with you. I was responding to the guy that came to this conclusion, “ Hard to decipher Eddie's reasoning behind Ennis unifying at 147​”.

                    Unifying 135, 140 and 147 is what’s made Bud an ATG and he’s about to do that at 154.

                    Boots unifying 147 will put him in the same path Bud embarked on. After that Boots can move to 154. It’s pretty much what Bud did but somehow Boots is being asked to move up to 154 to “prove” himself.
                    I agree 100%, the smartest path for Ennis is to let him become unified at 147 and then clean out 154 and possibly unifying at middleweight. Its all about timing and risk reward and If he's thrown in too soon they could unnecessarily ruining him for pennies on the dollar. I worry about Eddie Hearn because he's a gambler that just wants big money fights now and I can only hope that Bozy Ennis will keep Eddie in check.

                    I'll put it this way, when Crawford was at 140 it was not the time to throw him in with prime Keith Thurman. Could Crawford have won? Maybe, but if he lost we wouldn't be talking about him so yes....I agree with you 110%
                    Last edited by factsarenice; 07-26-2024, 01:04 PM.

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