When Did Alvarez Prime Start & End

[garfios]

Of course there is a talent gap between Jacobs and Bivol as it relates to Alvarez, I'm not dis*****g that. What I am saying is Alvarez did not use any of the slick stuff he used with Jacobs against Bivol. He occasionally would split Bivol's guard which was probably his best punch in that particular fight, but he stalked and punched at Bivol's arms for the most part and frankly moved like an absolute slug. Whether or not any of that Jacobs stuff would have worked on Bivol, we don't really know (probably not: Bivol IS too defensively sound) because he didn't even try. Not saying he would beat Bivol, but he'd probably actually EARN a round, maybe two.

There's a big difference between I didn't and I couldn't. The guy doesn't fare well against pure technical boxers. 2+2=4 not 2.5. Just because he looked good against a certain fighter doesn't mean he is going to look the same against another.

[QueensburyRules]

ggg2 to ggg3?

- - Canelo prime began the day U graduated out of U Big Barneys and ended the day U IQ was measured in lower double digits.

[garfios]

But nelos prime was probably sometime before bivo l fight. Somewhere around time when some were saying he needs to fight cruiserweights

He was the one wanting to fight CW. He thought because he beat a drunken past his prime kovalev he could do the same to others. Then his grandeur dreams came crashing down thanks to bivol, still he tried to bring jack down to 180? And no, he was as prime as bivol, you guys didn't gave a chance nor the casinos to bivol. He was in his prime and for the first time in years fought a good boxer.

[hugh grant]

He was the one wanting to fight CW. He thought because he beat a drunken past his prime kovalev he could do the same to others. Then his grandeur dreams came crashing down thanks to bivol, still he tried to bring jack down to 180? And no, he was as prime as bivol, you guys didn't gave a chance nor the casinos to bivol. He was in his prime and for the first time in years fought a good boxer.

Look at some of threads I made 2 years ago. I said bivol was favourite against nelo. I also made thread saying ggg best Nel o in rematch too

[gamesworn]

I wanted to say 154 but he honestly looked bad on this weight because of weight draining. For me, it is 160 and above, his at best physical shape and best mind (more experience).

[garfios]

Look at some of threads I made 2 years ago. I said bivol was favourite against nelo. I also made thread saying ggg best Nel o in rematch too

Only few of us gave him a good chance. Both were in their prime, just because canelo lost, it doesn't mean he was past his best, all his groupies fanatics came out with excuses, past his prime been one of the many, he beat him so throughly that not only he refused the rematch, he is ducking abyone with a pulse.

[Roadblock]

Only few of us gave him a good chance. Both were in their prime, just because canelo lost, it doesn't mean he was past his best, all his groupies fanatics came out with excuses, past his prime been one of the many, he beat him so throughly that not only he refused the rematch, he is ducking abyone with a pulse.

What is prime, fans talk like its a switch, in reality the elite fighters compete in the 90% ratio for pretty much all of their career with arise in the middle to around 95% and slight fall off in the end closer to 90% , Im talking averages here not somebody like Roy Jones that hangs around for ever, boxing is a speed/timing sport, a very small drop in either and the result is a loss instead of a win, the whole prime notion fans have is twisted and used to bolster their own personal agenda more so than actually analyzing performances other than winning and losing, if a guy loses they quick to say he wasn't prime which is so flawed.

[The D3vil]

ggg2 to ggg3?

There it is.

This is what I always tell people

[Joseph]

There's a big difference between I didn't and I couldn't. The guy doesn't fare well against pure technical boxers. 2+2=4 not 2.5. Just because he looked good against a certain fighter doesn't mean he is going to look the same against another.

Yeah, I think we're more or less agreeing about the basic principles but disagreeing on the hypotheticals, which frankly I usually avoid discussing because I don't care, and so I don't really know why I keep replying because the Bivol fight happened and any further fight probably won't happen and so it's a waste of time. Maybe I've just enjoyed the candor.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Funny. before Bivol fight id.iots here claimed he would have beaten Usyk at cruiserweight, lol.

But than Bivol beat him, and a little Canelo is "past his prime " lol.

****** casuals.