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  • #51
    Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post

    That is always the questions. If he get clipped by a good puncher constantly how he will react. David was landing very good right hand counters that were flush.
    Yup definitely
    Bud will take his 0 and maybe even his soul
    The fact he gets hit flush and hasn’t encountered a big puncher really explains his careful matchmaking imo

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    • #52
      Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

      Well in all reality , that hasn’t worked out to well has it
      in some cases yes it has

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      • #53
        Originally posted by djtmal View Post

        in some cases yes it has
        Really ???
        Care to explain
        What big fights has your way gotten him ???
        His biggest step up was his last fight against Ave who last fought a guy who was 11-55

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        • #54
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          Really ???
          Care to explain
          What big fights has your way gotten him ???
          His biggest step up was his last fight against Ave who last fought a guy who was 11-55
          No I am saying historically guys in his position looked a little vulnerable to lure cats in

          Hagler looked vulnerable against Mugabi and it lured Sugar Ray in by his own admission.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by djtmal View Post

            No I am saying historically guys in his position looked a little vulnerable to lure cats in
            Ain’t working out cause his last three opponents have shown holes in his armoury

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            • #56
              Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

              Yup definitely
              Bud will take his 0 and maybe even his soul
              The fact he gets hit flush and hasn’t encountered a big puncher really explains his careful matchmaking imo
              I really don't think it is match making. He was poorly promoted and really only had Showtime airing his fights. The way that he looks in the ring is high risk and low reward, not having any pull didn't bring any big or experienced names. Fighters can go so long without facing legit opponents and falsely think that they can run over everyone. He has over 30 fights and all those KOes and he mentally can come in a fight with the wrong attitude.

              I do like to watch him fight but still want to see him tested with a few top fighters, WW now don't have the depth anymore. Too bad because it can be a waste of prime years or really not what he looks to be. This is wait and see, he can always wait for all those JrWW make it to him especially if he can hold all the titles.
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              • #57
                Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post

                I really don't think it is match making. He was poorly promoted and really only had Showtime airing his fights. The way that he looks in the ring is high risk and low reward, not having any pull didn't bring any big or experienced names. Fighters can go so long without facing legit opponents and falsely think that they can run over everyone. He has over 30 fights and all those KOes and he mentally can come in a fight with the wrong attitude.

                I do like to watch him fight but still want to see him tested with a few top fighters, WW now don't have the depth anymore. Too bad because it can be a waste of prime years or really not what he looks to be. This is wait and see, he can always wait for all those JrWW make it to him especially if he can hold all the titles.
                I’ll agree he needs management changes or is his dad all of that ( not sure )
                The choice comes down to the fighter to decide whether facing someone or not
                The same goes for his inactivity , it’s on him
                Instead of staying busy like he said he wanted to , he’s still on course for one fight a year maybe he can squeeze one in before the end of the year
                A D he needs to stop refusing fights with his comment that these guys are not on his level , just stay busy

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                • #58
                  Facts. His defensive isn't technically great, it's mainly just reflexive backed by his athleticism. Much like Roy Jones or Zab Judah etc.

                  His mainstay is his offense. Fast, powerful, brutal punches. So, that's what he is mainly known for. Nobody really talks about his defense, to be fair.

                  Not a whole lot to show either when facing B and lower level fighters with tailor made styles for him to pick apart.
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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                    C’mon Billeau , you know as well as I do that at this point in his career he ain’t gonna change his style
                    Bowe listened to his corner and followed a game plan but didn’t change his style
                    Its not about changing style, it is about making adjustments and following a game plan... Lets use Holly as an example. Holly always could box, he just did not like to box, preferring to slug it out. He had the skills already. That would apply to the Bowe fight where, the time he beat Bowe he boxed. With Tyson it was learning to do a particular manuveur that required a lot of trust. Turner had him pushing on Mike's center point of balance, where we do not have a leg... To do this Holly had to buck intuition and come into Mike, not go backwards...

                    It is this second point where we might look at Ennis. He is obviously offensive minded, can he follow directions to make adjustments? Not to change any fundamentals regarding style, but rather, little things that might make him effective.

                    BTW I did watch the fight and yeah, he was catching a lot of shots lol. Unfortunately despite age, these guys are not fighting enough, so, they are arrested in their development to a degree, vis a vis Boots still making mistakes by taking shots he should not be, etc.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                      Its not about changing style, it is about making adjustments and following a game plan... Lets use Holly as an example. Holly always could box, he just did not like to box, preferring to slug it out. He had the skills already. That would apply to the Bowe fight where, the time he beat Bowe he boxed. With Tyson it was learning to do a particular manuveur that required a lot of trust. Turner had him pushing on Mike's center point of balance, where we do not have a leg... To do this Holly had to buck intuition and come into Mike, not go backwards...

                      It is this second point where we might look at Ennis. He is obviously offensive minded, can he follow directions to make adjustments? Not to change any fundamentals regarding style, but rather, little things that might make him effective.

                      BTW I did watch the fight and yeah, he was catching a lot of shots lol. Unfortunately despite age, these guys are not fighting enough, so, they are arrested in their development to a degree, vis a vis Boots still making mistakes by taking shots he should not be, etc.
                      Ok , I read that wrong
                      I thought you were talking about his defence meaning he’d have to change quite a bit to up his defence and imo , at this stage of his career it’s just not going to happen
                      Unless he decides to cut down on his offend ewhich in reality is his defence lol
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