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  • #51
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Followers are a lot of tweens. They aren’t buying boxing ppvs.
    And yet Tank was doing 300K before Ryan, and 300K after Ryan. He averages about 225K himself irregardless of opponents, and the draw quality of the opponent adds the rest.
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    Haney PPV before Ryan 60K vs Prograis. Nearly 10 times that with Ryan.

    The data is VERY clear. They did those numbers because of Ryan. Period. Tank Davis may have been the negotiating A-side, but Ryan Garcia was the one bringing the money. Dunno if that's changed with all his shenanigans or not but Tank is right back to where he was before, as I predicted.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

      And yet Tank was doing 300K before Ryan, and 300K after Ryan. He averages about 225K himself irregardless of opponents, and the draw quality of the opponent adds the rest.
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      Haney PPV before Ryan 60K vs Prograis. Nearly 10 times that with Ryan.

      The data is VERY clear. They did those numbers because of Ryan. Period. Tank Davis may have been the negotiating A-side, but Ryan Garcia was the one bringing the money. Dunno if that's changed with all his shenanigans or not but Tank is right back to where he was before, as I predicted.
      And imo , the only reason Tank is willing to give Ryan a rematch
      What do they say ; money talks bullchit walks
      Yeah , sounds about right

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      • #53
        Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

        Boxing is a symbiotic business. Hearn has always said he admires Arum because you could burn his house down and he'd still do business with you. A promoter understands that they are nothing without the boxer. As much as the fighters disrespect Floyd, they also idolize him and Floyd knows this. The issue is that Mayweather Promotions doesn't have a long track record like other promotional companies, so Floyd can only rely on his personal success to entice potential applicants. Floyd can't seem to translate that hero-worship into signatures. Davis is really his only proof of concept, so it looks especially bad when they have their public arguments. He now has a chance to replicate Tank's success with young Curmel Moton.

        And that’s who he should strictly focus on. Don’t even look in Shakur’s direction. Shakur doesn’t have much upside in terms of being a mega PPV superstar. I know people on here are so desperate to constantly make the Floyd comparison, but Floyd had the personality and charisma early on and he knew how to capitalized off of that. Shakur is just blatantly arrogant for no reason, not even willing to listen to his grandpa. Yeah Shakur, you’re skilled and everyone in boxing and around the world is ducking you, but you have no aura and not captivating anyone’s attention with your performances. Humble yourself a bit, bruh. Listen to your OG’s, they’ve walked so you could run and have accomplished much more than you have.
        Last edited by Carpe Diem; 07-10-2024, 04:50 PM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post

          And that’s who he should strictly focus on. Don’t even look in Shakur’s direction. Shakur doesn’t have much upside in terms of being a mega PPV superstar. I know people on here are so desperate to constantly make the Floyd comparison, but Floyd had the personality and charisma early on and he knew how to capitalized off of that. Shakur is just blatantly arrogant for no reason, not even willing to listen to his grandpa. Yeah Shakur, you’re skilled and everyone in boxing and around the world is ducking you, but you have no aura and not captivating anyone’s attention with your performances. Humble yourself a bit, bruh. Listen to your OG’s, they’ve walked so you could run and have accomplished much more than you have.
          Honestly , never heard people comparing him to Floyd
          He ain’t even close to Floyd lol

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          • #55
            Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

            Honestly , never heard people comparing him to Floyd
            He ain’t even close to Floyd lol
            I guess you weren’t around after his Olympics run in 2016. Shakur could’ve signed with Floyd back then too, but he let other voices get in his head and went to TR. Floyd embarrassed himself trying to recruit him back then and it was all for nothing, Floyd should just return the favor now. There have been countless of debates on here about Shakur possibly being better and greater than Floyd after he won his first title. Shakur himself have stated that he’s much more defensive minded and wiser at his age than Floyd ever was. He puts a lot of pressure on himself by drawing that comparison and whenever reality hits and he underperforms, he turns on everyone. He’s definitely not mentally as strong as Floyd is, that’s for damn sure.

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            • #56
              Certain people have a type of aura that you can’t quite describe. Both of the MJ’s have it. Michael Jordan has it, Michael Jackson had it. Especially now with Jordan, you rarely see him, he’s not on social media, etc, but whenever he pulls up somewhere, all eyes are on him
              and he doesn’t even have to do anything to draw attention to himself. Floyd could take a few notes from them, don’t let these youngsters disrespect you and then act like a fan towards them. Don’t give them any access whatsoever. They already hate you and jealous of you, so **** “em.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post

                I guess you weren’t around after his Olympics run in 2016. Shakur could’ve signed with Floyd back then too, but he let other voices get in his head and went to TR. Floyd embarrassed himself trying to recruit him back then and it was all for nothing, Floyd should just return the favor now. There have been countless of debates on here about Shakur possibly being better and greater than Floyd after he won his first title. Shakur himself have stated that he’s much more defensive minded and wiser at his age than Floyd ever was. He puts a lot of pressure on himself by drawing that comparison and whenever reality hits and he underperforms, he turns on everyone. He’s definitely not mentally as strong as Floyd is, that’s for damn sure.
                He’s narrowed it down to TMT or MR
                Read it over multiple sites
                Now claiming he hurt his hands in the last fight lmao
                Even Slow Eddie backtracking on his stance of not wanting Shakur
                Te will tell
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                • #58
                  Is Floyd the only promoter at PBC interested in working with Shakur? How about the others like Mandown, Lions Only, DGarcia, etc.?
                  If it's not Floyd, who else is there to serve as the go to in between Stevenson and PBC?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by tomhawq View Post
                    Is Floyd the only promoter at PBC interested in working with Shakur? How about the others like Mandown, Lions Only, DGarcia, etc.?
                    If it's not Floyd, who else is there to serve as the go to in between Stevenson and PBC?
                    Stevenson broke it down to two ; MR or TMT
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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

                      And yet Tank was doing 300K before Ryan, and 300K after Ryan. He averages about 225K himself irregardless of opponents, and the draw quality of the opponent adds the rest.
                      ​​​
                      Haney PPV before Ryan 60K vs Prograis. Nearly 10 times that with Ryan.

                      The data is VERY clear. They did those numbers because of Ryan. Period. Tank Davis may have been the negotiating A-side, but Ryan Garcia was the one bringing the money. Dunno if that's changed with all his shenanigans or not but Tank is right back to where he was before, as I predicted.
                      Yes that shows Ryan is a bigger name than the others, which we all knew.

                      I would like to see credible Ryan/ Haney numbers to gauge what Ryan brings. Where are you getting 600k from?

                      That was because no one knew Martin. We will see with Tank v Loma.

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