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  • #61
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

    Bob Arum made that lie up about Doheny having "Cult status" in Japan to try and justify this. But the facts are, Doheny doesn't. There is no evidence for it other than the lie coming from Arum's lips.
    You really don't get anything do you. Dohney achieved cult following because he was brought to Japan as b-side to lose, but he kept winning by knockout. So the Japanese fans wanted inoue to fight dohney instead of Nery. Cause they didn't want nery to receive a payday. So now that goodman backed out inoue is fighting Dohney for replacement.
    Last edited by BoxWhere; 07-03-2024, 03:53 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

      This isn't really the work of Inoue. I have a hard time believing this fight not happening has anything to do with Inoue. This has Bob Arum written all over it.
      Why are you having such a hard time to understand that inoue said he staying at 122 for 3 or 4 fights. Which includes mj fight. Infact the original plan was to fight Goodman in September and MJ in December. But Goodman backed out and wanted December date. That meant inoue took dohney as replacement to fill his schedule because this year he is fighting 3 times. Then out of nowhere WBA orders mj fight. And that's why inoue won't let any organization dictate his fight dates. He is fighting mj once he is done with dohney and Goodman. Bob arum has nothing to do with inoue because he is just inoue's US co-promoter. Inoue's promoter and decision maker is ohashi.
      Last edited by BoxWhere; 07-03-2024, 04:53 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

        You really don't anything do you. Dohney achieved cult following because he was brought to Japan as b-side to lose, but he kept winning by knockout. So the Japanese fans wanted inoue to fight dohney instead of Nery. Cause they didn't want nery to receive a payday. So now that goodman backed out inoue is fighting Dohney for replacement.
        Doheny achieved cult following beating a bum in front of about 1400 people at Korakuen Hall with the other being American? I'm sorry, but i don't buy that. It's bullshlt set up by Arum to try and justify MJ not getting the fight.

        The Japanese fans don't even know who the hell Doheny is. Why would they? They haven't called for the fight. Show me where they called for it?

        The Japanese fans very much did want Inoue to fight Nery so he could punish him for what he did against Yamanaka. It was the theme throughout the build-up. There wouldn't be anything of the sort with Doheny because 1) They don't want revenge as he hasn't done anything for them to want it. 2) They don't know who the hell he is.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

          Not that triangular theories work but, Tapales didn't even beat MJ. He got a gift decision.

          No one who knows who these fighters are would be calling for a finished fighter in Doheny instead of a prime and much better fighter in MJ for Inoue to fight. No one. Doheny is a worthless fight and quite frankly a hideous fight. It's just a waste of time and does absolutely nothing for Inoue.

          Bob is doing this because MJ is with Eddie. Bob is just being his spiteful self and making it personal. Inoue would be better off getting rid of that vulture. He's bad news to be involved with. He has no shame what-so-ever.
          They both bring nothing to the table. Dononhy probably brings in more money than MJ as he is know in Japan. It's like a stay busy fight for Inuoe. No one is calling for either fight. MJ needs to rematch Tapales or beat a guy that is top 10 in the division for people to become interested. He hasn't done anything after the lost, he couldn't even stop Tapales who Inuoe dismantled.

          MJ is just waiting for the Pay Day instead of fighting others. He could fight Tapales, Fulton, Nery and try to look impressive, but is probably scare to lose or not look good.
          Last edited by boxingitis; 07-03-2024, 04:10 PM.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

            Why are you having such a hard time to understand that inoue said he staying at 122 fir 3 or 4 fights. Which includes mj fight. Infact the original plan was to fight Goodman in September and MJ in December. But Goodman backed out and wanted December date. That meant inoue took dohney as replacement to fill his schedule because this year he is fighting 3 times. Then out of nowhere WBA orders mj fight. And that's why inoue won't let any organization dictate his fight dates. He is fighting mj once he is done with dohney and Goodman. Bob arum has nothing to do with inoue because he is just inoue's US co-promoter. Inoue's promoter and decision maker is ohashi.
            Arum is on record saying they're going to Featherweight after this fight. He'll push for Inoue to move up.

            If Inoue needs a replacement, then fight MJ. Doheny does nothing for him. It's a worthless fight against a finished fighter.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by boxingitis View Post

              They both bring nothing to the table. Dononhy probably brings in more money than MJ as he is know in Japan. It's like a stay busy fight for Inuoe. No one is calling for either fight. MJ needs to rematch Tapales or beat a guy that is top 10 in the division for people to become interested. He hasn't done anything after the lost, he couldn't even stop Tapales who Inuoe dismantled.

              MJ is just waiting for the Pay Day instead of fighting others. He could fight Tapales, Fulton, Nery and try to look impressive, but is probably scare to lose or not look good.
              MJ brings a whole lot more to the table being that he's a vastly superior fighter than Doheny and actually in his prime. Doheny is a huge disappointment. Anyone who says otherwise is basically admitting they know very little about this division.

              Doheny was watched in a hall with about 1400 people. He will not be generating any money in Japan.

              MJ wanted the fight when he held the titles. That's when the talk about the Inoue fight first came around for him. It's not just in the last few months he's started talking about it.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                Arum is on record saying they're going to Featherweight after this fight. He'll push for Inoue to move up.

                If Inoue needs a replacement, then fight MJ. Doheny does nothing for him. It's a worthless fight against a finished fighter.
                Who cares what Bob says. Cause he has 0 say in anything inoue does.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                  Doheny achieved cult following beating a bum in front of about 1400 people at Korakuen Hall with the other being American? I'm sorry, but i don't buy that. It's bullshlt set up by Arum to try and justify MJ not getting the fight.

                  The Japanese fans don't even know who the hell Doheny is. Why would they? They haven't called for the fight. Show me where they called for it?

                  The Japanese fans very much did want Inoue to fight Nery so he could punish him for what he did against Yamanaka. It was the theme throughout the build-up. There wouldn't be anything of the sort with Doheny because 1) They don't want revenge as he hasn't done anything for them to want it. 2) They don't know who the hell he is.
                  Dude dohney literally fought at the Tokyo dome. His cult even grew more when he knocked out inoue's main sparring partern and undefeated featherweight prospect Japhethlee Llamido. Who was thought very highly by Japanese fight fans.

                  Lol Japanese didn't want inoie to fight nery at all. If they did they wanted him to do outside of Japan. Cause nobody wanted nery to receive money after what he did to Yamanaka. Instead they wanted to see inoue fight dohney. And that the reason dohney was the back up for nery at the dome, if he showed up overweight.
                  Last edited by BoxWhere; 07-03-2024, 05:14 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

                    Who cares what Bob says. Cause he has 0 say in anything inoue does.
                    You'll see when Inoue moves up without fighting MJ.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                      MJ brings a whole lot more to the table being that he's a vastly superior fighter than Doheny and actually in his prime. Doheny is a huge disappointment. Anyone who says otherwise is basically admitting they know very little about this division.

                      Doheny was watched in a hall with about 1400 people. He will not be generating any money in Japan.

                      MJ wanted the fight when he held the titles. That's when the talk about the Inoue fight first came around for him. It's not just in the last few months he's started talking about it.
                      Lol mj brings nothing no belt no name. And if mj really wanted the fight then he'd be active, instead he is laying on his couch. He just wants a payday. Dude still refuses to rematch tapales. Watch how inoue and doheny sellout 20,000 Arena.

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