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  • #31
    Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

    Yeah it was very pathetic from MJ's team that they tried to push for purse bid, instead of trying to negotiate a deal with inoue. Do they not understand that inoue won't let any corrupt organization dictate him.
    Isn’t the WBA purse bid split 75/25 to the champ?

    What kind of “deal” are we asking him to negotiate-85/15 or 90/10? That seems like a bogus excuse.

    Bob would simply keep moving the goalpost each time MJ agreed and then try to blame him. He does this often.

    Makes Inoue look weak when all of us know he isn’t scared.

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    • #32
      Inoue is in a position to do as he pleases and I'm all for champions of his stature not being dictated to by the sanctioning bodies.

      The big money for Inoue is still in Japan where his status is such that he can sell out the Dome against almost anyone.

      To be fair, MJ is probably the "best" opponent left at 122 in a boxing sense but Inoue is already undisputed there and theres others that make more "business" sense.

      Arum has very little say on what I Inoue does so, as Arum himself says. MJs best option is to try to negotiate directly with the Japanese promoters.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

        Isn’t the WBA purse bid split 75/25 to the champ?

        What kind of “deal” are we asking him to negotiate-85/15 or 90/10? That seems like a bogus excuse.

        Bob would simply keep moving the goalpost each time MJ agreed and then try to blame him. He does this often.

        Makes Inoue look weak when all of us know he isn’t scared.
        Dude are you an idiot or what. Do you not understand that if the fight ends up on purse bid then MJ's promoter Eddie who is connected to turki will win the bid. And they had plans to put the fight on AJ'S undercard. That will never happen Inoue won't fight on undercard.

        and why the F would it make inoue look weak when he has a fight date and MJ suddenly comes out saying BS things about inoue. Instead of doing that MJ should fight someone good to drive up the interest. If anything it makes MJ look weak because he still refuses to rematch tapales. And he won't fight anyone and would rather stay inactive cause he has fear of losing payday.
        Last edited by BoxWhere; 07-03-2024, 09:58 AM.
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        • #34
          Just don't address this Japanese biatch as a "monster" anymore.
          These ***ers are only interested in undisputed when they only have to beat bums to achieve it.
          Bud and Usyk are the only credible undisputed. The rest (Canelo, Inoue, Haney) are just biatches.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by jin-songtsen View Post

            Dude are you an idiot or what. Do you not understand that of the fight ends up on purse bid then MJ's promoter Eddie who is connected to thrki will win the bid. And they had plans to pit the fight on AJ'S undercard. That will never happen Inoue won't fight on undercard.

            and why the F would it make inoue look weak when he has a fight date and MJ suddenly comes out saying BS things about inoue. Instead of doing that MJ should fight someone good to drive up the interest. If anything it makes MJ look weak because he still refuses to rematch tapales. And he won't fight anyone and wojld rather stay inactive cause he has fear of losing payday.
            He only wins the bid if he bids an amount more than Bob. So the emphasis is on Bob to spend money. This is why he doesn’t want a purse bid. You’re the one that comes off as an idiot not seeing this.

            The higher the bid, at a 75/25 split, benefits Inoue even more. Unless of course he can’t win in a tough fight outside of Japan, which I don’t believe. Makes no sense to me.

            Being On AJ’s undercard isn’t a bad thing for a SBW. Canelo used Floyd’s undercard and Chavez used Tyson’s undercard when Both were considerably more known than Inoue is now. Just saying.

            Bob is making Inoue look weak because his actions and word make Inoue look like he is ducking a tough opponent.

            Now you’re being disingenuous. Drive up interest is fake. Bob said he’s going up to FW after Doherty, so there isn’t any interest to drive up.

            Rematch Tapales Instead of a title shot as the mando? Come on dude have some integrity. He would rematch Tapales after the title fight, same as you would do.

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            • #36
              MJ ducked Fulton, then lost to Tapales.
              What has he done since?

              Nothing.

              And he deserves to fight the #1 guy based on…?



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              • #37
                Originally posted by JOITATS View Post
                MJ ducked Fulton, then lost to Tapales.
                What has he done since?

                Nothing.

                And he deserves to fight the #1 guy based on…?
                Being the mandatory #1 ranked challenger to the WBA belt.

                Dude, you really just asked this?

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                • #38
                  He is high risk. TJ Doheny is low risk.

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                  • #39
                    For the record I wanted MJ, still want MJ, and hoping for MJ sometime around first half of next year before Inoue moves up.

                    That being said the timing WBA mentioned the mandatory was definitely way too late and the deadline way too short. After the Goodman fallout, it was not exactly a secret that a match with Doheny was in deep negotiations and all but finalized for September and then demanding a September match only means they either want some way to break the belts off, or just did it in spite. If WBA didn't have other intents and simply wanted a mando fight, they should've slapped it on the day after the Nery fight ended, or at the latest the moment Goodman negotiations fell through and not wait until the backup with Doheny was in full force.

                    Unfortunately with Doheny all but confirmed, my next hope would be that MJ actually wants the smoke for real and shows up to December during Inoue-Goodman to the ring. Or better yet find some way to somehow swap Goodman with MJ for December. Goodman can go cry a river in that case, as he really started this fiasco by his bravado words in May and then not wanting September which is still idiotic.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      He only wins the bid if he bids an amount more than Bob. So the emphasis is on Bob to spend money. This is why he doesnât want a purse bid. Youâre the one that comes off as an idiot not seeing this.

                      The higher the bid, at a 75/25 split, benefits Inoue even more. Unless of course he canât win in a tough fight outside of Japan, which I donât believe. Makes no sense to me.

                      Being On AJâs undercard isnât a bad thing for a SBW. Canelo used Floydâs undercard and Chavez used Tysonâs undercard when Both were considerably more known than Inoue is now. Just saying.

                      Bob is making Inoue look weak because his actions and word make Inoue look like he is ducking a tough opponent.

                      Now youâre being disingenuous. Drive up interest is fake. Bob said heâs going up to FW after Doherty, so there isnât any interest to drive up.

                      Rematch Tapales Instead of a title shot as the mando? Come on dude have some integrity. He would rematch Tapales after the title fight, same as you would do.
                      Once you talked about Bob bidding. You lost all the credibility you had. Do you not understand that Bob isn't inoue's promoter. Inoue's promoter is ohashi. Bob is just inoue's US co-promoter. And Bob has no decision making in inoue's career. It's all decided by inoue and ohashi and both said they staying at 122 for 4 more fights. So he is fighting MJ.

                      But right now we all know why MJ fight can't happen at the moment. Because we're aware this one's on Goodman, rather than Inoue. Goodman booked Luangphon After being named Inoue's IBF mandatory. Inoue only booked Doheny to fill his calendar after Goodman ducked.

                      TJ Doheny is a former World Champion, has a 77% KO rate. He is ranked WBO No.2, and within top 10 for all of WBC, IBF, WBA and The Ring. And has achieved cult following in Japan. So they will sellout Arena.

                      Having already stopped Fulton, Tapales and Nery, and neither Goodman nor Akhmadaliev wanting to fight in the Tokyo summer, either Doheny or Casimero is about the best oppo Inoue can get. Nakatani is still in Bantam, Bam is further down, Carrington is in Feather.

                      So who is inoue supposed to fight? Doheny's no Akhmadaliev, but Doheny is still a better card to sell than Liam Davies, Denis McCann, Ramon Cardenas, CJ Martin etc.
                      Last edited by BoxWhere; 07-03-2024, 10:30 AM.
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