Euro Level Athletes VS Russians

[Sid-Knee]

Americans...Good nutrition, great opportunity, the best training - The Masters.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Wille Pep
4. Joe Louis
5. Harry Greb
6. Benny Leonard
7. Muhammad Ali
8. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Jack Johnson
11. Mickey Walker
12. Tony Canzoneri
13. Gene Tunney
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Ezzard Charles
16. Sugar Ray Leonard
17. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
18. Joe Gans
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. Barney Ross
21. Jimmy McLarnin
22. Archie Moore
23. Larry Holmes
24. Sandy Sadler
25. Billy Conn
26. Abe Attell
27. Jake LaMotta
28. Terry McGovern
29. Thomas Hearns
30. Jack Britton
31. Pernell Whitaker
32. George Foreman
33. Jack Dillon
34. Charley Burley
35. Sonny Liston
36. Tommy Loughran
37. John L. Sullivan
38. Joe Frazier
39. Roy Jones Jr.
40. Tiger Flowers
41. Beau Jack
42. Mike Tyson
43. Ike Williams
44. Tommy Ryan
45. Carmen Basillio
46. James J. Corbett
47. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
48. Evander Holyfield
49. Joe Jeanette
50. James J. Jeffries


That's a list that's impossible to match, even by the rest of the world combined.

Can you not tell who these supposed Jamaicans and Nigerians are post 1960's in the UK?

I know you're a troll and included McLarnin to try and get a raise out of me but, the US has 5 times the numbers of the UK. Give me 5 times more than my list...

Bob Fitzsimmons
Charley White
Joe Calzaghe
Jimmy Wilde
Jimmy McLarnin
Ricky Hatton
Owen Moran
Freddie Welsh
Phil Bloom
Carl Froch
Johnny Cuthbert
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Joe Burman
Matt Wells
Jack "Kid" Berg
Jim Driscoll
Naseem Hamed
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Michael Watson
Lennox Lewis

Give me 105 bona fide ATG's.

Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Marciano, Dempsey, Holmes, L Sullivan, J Corbett have painfully limited resumes and are grotesquely overrated. But the worst for being overrated, is the one i consider as the most grotesquely overrated athlete the world of sport has ever created. None other than Muhammad Ali.

Put in fighters who are actual greats with the resume to support it. Not unskilled fighters with one or two wins over good fighters and not much else.

[Willow The Wisp]

Can you not tell who these supposed Jamaicans and Nigerians are post 1960's in the UK?

I know you're a troll and included McLarnin to try and get a raise out of me but, the US has 5 times the numbers of the UK. Give me 5 times more than my list...

Bob Fitzsimmons
Charley White
Joe Calzaghe
Jimmy Wilde
Jimmy McLarnin
Ricky Hatton
Owen Moran
Freddie Welsh
Phil Bloom
Carl Froch
Johnny Cuthbert
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Joe Burman
Matt Wells
Jack "Kid" Berg
Jim Driscoll
Naseem Hamed
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Michael Watson
Lennox Lewis

Give me 105 bona fide ATG's.

Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Marciano, Dempsey, Holmes, L Sullivan, J Corbett have painfully limited resumes and are grotesquely overrated. But the worst for being overrated, is the one i consider as the most grotesquely overrated athlete the world of sport has ever created. None other than Muhammad Ali.

Put in fighters who are actual greats with the resume to support it. Not unskilled fighters with one or two wins over good fighters and not much else.

A proud Brit. Very Good.
Was there a question for me in there?

[famicommander]

Bivol's mother is an ethnic Korean born in Kazakhstan.
Bivol's father was born and raised in Moldova, where Romanians are the primary ethnic group.
Bivol was born and lived the first 11 years of his life in Kyrgyzstan, then moved to Russia for many years, and now lives in California.

He fought under the Russian flag but he's not ethnic Russian. The name "Bivol" comes from the Romanian word for ox. Ethnically he's Romanian-Korean.

[SouthpawRight]

Bivol's mother is an ethnic Korean born in Kazakhstan.
Bivol's father was born and raised in Moldova, where Romanians are the primary ethnic group.
Bivol was born and lived the first 11 years of his life in Kyrgyzstan, then moved to Russia for many years, and now lives in California.

He fought under the Russian flag but he's not ethnic Russian. The name "Bivol" comes from the Romanian word for ox. Ethnically he's Romanian-Korean.

someone who gets it

Moldovians are Romanian as Taiwanese are Chinese and to a lesser degree Ukrainians are Russian

Bivol claims all 4 nations as seen on his IG [SK and Moldova rather than NK and Romania]

SK having the least to do with him. But looks most like a Korean and identifies with it

his background a legacy of the Soviet era

[Sid-Knee]

A proud Brit. Very Good.
Was there a question for me in there?

There were a few. I'll give one at a time so as not to make it too difficult for you....

Who were these supposed Nigerians and Jamaicans post the 1960's in the UK?