Canelo’s Resume vs Pacquiao’s Resume

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  • daggum
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pac=Duran

    Broner, Vargas, Bradley and Thurman.

    That's pretty ****ing good for a guy around 40 yo
    only thurman was a top guy but hey getting one top win when you are 40 is great. not everyone is hopkins

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #12
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran

      Broner, Vargas, Bradley and Thurman.

      That's pretty ****ing good for a guy around 40 yo
      Yeah it's pretty good.

      On what planet is that "dominating a new WW era"?

      For starts, Broner and Vargas aren't top WW's and they weren't of the new era either. Bradley was a top WW, but he wasn't of the new era of WW's either. Thurman was of the new era, and that's the only win he has over the new WW era of the time.

      The new Era of WW's at that time were Brook, Spence, Porter, Crawford, Thurman. He fought one of them whilst they all fought each other mostly.

      After that KO to Marquez, he was never #1 at WW ever again, he lost to Mayweather, then lost to Jeff Horn, whilst picking up some good wins but was never close to "dominating" and was barely even in the picture in all honesty, hovered around the #4-#5 mark while all the actual new era were fighting over who the next guy would be.

      So let's just stick to what actually happened as opposed to what objectively didn't.

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      • SouthpawRight
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        #13
        Resume isn’t just a list of names

        manny was capable of dominating in his big fights

        Alvarez seldom showed that high level of performance

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        • SouthpawRight
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          #14
          Alvarez is better defensively though

          some of the best defense I seen on a Mexican boxer

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          • djtmal
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            #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza



            After that KO to Marquez, he was never #1 at WW ever again, he lost to Mayweather, then lost to Jeff Horn, whilst picking up some good wins but was never close to "dominating" and was barely even in the picture in all honesty, hovered around the #4-#5 mark while all the actual new era were fighting over who the next guy would be.
            You tried to claim he was top 2 and still prime when your crush Floyd fought him to defend Floyd cherrypicking.

            Here it looks like you are singing a different tune

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            • uppercut510
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              #16
              pac is the better but both great.... but i still dont give much into the talks of an 8 division champ, we all know that margarito fiasco was a scam

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                #17
                Originally posted by daggum

                only thurman was a top guy but hey getting one top win when you are 40 is great. not everyone is hopkins
                PACs resume over 40 is better than Hopkins

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by djtmal

                  You tried to claim he was top 2 and still prime when your crush Floyd fought him to defend Floyd cherrypicking.

                  Here it looks like you are singing a different tune
                  I have never once said he was in his prime in 2015, he objectively wasn't.

                  He was however #2 at WW and #2 P4P when he lost to Floyd, also an objective fact.

                  How is that "singing a different tune" to what I said in my post in any way what so ever?

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HeadShots

                    PACs resume over 40 is better than Hopkins
                    Really? Are you sure about that?

                    You think beating Adrien Broner and Keith Thurman is a better resume than beating Eastman, Tarver, Winky Wright, Pavlik, Pascal, Cloud and Shumenov?

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                    • Malvado
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                      #20
                      Don't think there is much of a argument for Canelo over Pacquiao, first ballot for Hall Of Famer for sure. But debatable if he is a shallow end of a All Time Great.

                      Canelo's resume is a mix of stay busy fights, declining boxing icons with disadvantaged conditions, and wins over good fighters like Kirkland, Trout, Jacobs, Saunders, Smith Brothers, Plant and Etc.

                      His best wins over Hall Of Famers are likely Cotto, Lara and GGG in the rematch. Though last two are debatable if he won.

                      Whereas Pacquiao beat champions in their ideal weight divisions, although some few had declined by the time he beat them like Morales in the rematch, Mosley and De La Hoya. He beat Vargas, Broner, Matthysse, Barrera X2, Morales X2, Marquez X2 (debatable), De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Bradley X2, Matthysse and Thurman.

                      Also like another poster said, performances also matter, Pacquiao won convincingly while Alvarez rarely displayed dominance over his most difficult opposition that he beat and lost to.
                      Last edited by Malvado; 06-28-2024, 03:31 PM.

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