Canelo’s Resume vs Pacquiao’s Resume

[gamesworn]

Okay so here’s a question. Do you think aspects of the wins have no impact? Like I said Pacquiaos resume is among the best BUT

Mosley was at the end of his career and just loss to Mayweather
Margarito catchweight and completely damaged goods
De La Hoya was at the end of his career and completely done
Marquez wins were big asterisks then he got KTFO to end the war
Thurman was a good win but it was after a long layoff and a bunch of injuries. Look at his career afterwards
Hatton was just KOd by Mayweather
You also have to add in getting KO’d by Marquez
Losing to Tim Bradley
Losing to Horn
Losing to Ugas


Im not trying to take away from his resume, just asking if that stuff matters?

You can't fight everyone at their primes. That is not possible at all. Point is Pacquio fought many prime HOFs and ATGs and won them very clearly.

Bradley 1 and Horn are clear robberies. Bradley was competitive but no way he won that fight. Horn catched everything with his face, this is not debatable at all, this is boxing, not wrestling.

All Marquez fights were all close competitive fights.

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As opposed to what? Your imaginary win for Pacquaio over Bradley?

Pacquaio has two fights post 40, one of which wasn't even ranked in Broner. Both of which Pacquaio was favourite to beat.

Hopkins on the other hand beat;

Tarver was ranked #1 and Hopkins was the underdog
Pascal was ranked #1 and Hopkins was the underdog
Howard Eastman was ranked #1
Winky Wright was P4P #3 and Hopkins was the underdog
Kelly Pavlik was ranked #1 (At Middleweight) and Hopkins was the underdog.
Tavouris Cloud was ranked #2 and IBF Champion and Hopkins was the underdog
Shumenov was #5 and WBA Champion

So you're talking nonsense and it's not even remotely comparable.

Broner was 3 division champ.



Who did Hopkins beat after 40 that's a 3 division champ? I'll wait.


Ur ranking complete bums like Eastman and totally shot fighters like WRight.

[IronDanHamza]

Broner was 3 division champ.



Who did Hopkins beat after 40 that's a 3 division champ? I'll wait.


Ur ranking complete bums like Eastman and totally shot fighters like WRight.

He beat Roy Jones who was a 4 divison champion. If we are going to list unranked fighters with your totally moronic logic then let's go with that.

Roy Jones>>>>Broner. Right?

Broner was never even an actual legit champion, he was a paper champion at every weight class he was in. He wasn't even ranked at WW when Pacquaio fought him. Unlike the plethora of Top 5 ranked fighters I've literally just listed to you that Hopkins beat post 40.

Winky Wright was totally shot? Can you read or are you just retarded? He was P4P #3 when he fought Hopkins and was coming off the best run of his career in which he was the betting favourite to beat Hopkins. How could you possibly argue that's shot?

Howard Eastman was ranked #1 in the divison when Hopkins beat him and a much better win than Adrien Broner who was unranked in the division when Pacquaio beat him.

To argue Pacquaio has a better resume post 40 compared to Hopkins is flat out the dumbest thing I may have ever heard.

[anonymous2.0]

r u really bringing up the corpse of RJJ as a HOF win? LMFAO holy chit.

who was the other HOF win?

Joe Calzaghe, RJJ, Wink Wright. You can't pick and choose which wins count or not, all fights count or no fights count.

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Joe Calzaghe, RJJ, Wink Wright. You can't pick and choose which wins count or not, all fights count or no fights count.

Jake Paul's KO win over Tyson is gonna count too then right?


As a matter of fact, Kevin Mcbride is an ATG, he already KOed Tyson.

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He beat Roy Jones who was a 4 divison champion. If we are going to list unranked fighters with your totally moronic logic then let's go with that.

Roy Jones>>>>Broner. Right?

Broner was never even an actual legit champion, he was a paper champion at every weight class he was in. He wasn't even ranked at WW when Pacquaio fought him. Unlike the plethora of Top 5 ranked fighters I've literally just listed to you that Hopkins beat post 40.

Winky Wright was totally shot? Can you read or are you just retarded? He was P4P #3 when he fought Hopkins and was coming off the best run of his career in which he was the betting favourite to beat Hopkins. How could you possibly argue that's shot?

Howard Eastman was ranked #1 in the divison when Hopkins beat him and a much better win than Adrien Broner who was unranked in the division when Pacquaio beat him.

To argue Pacquaio has a better resume post 40 compared to Hopkins is flat out the dumbest thing I may have ever heard.

smooth brain take


LMFAO completely shot to bits roy jones. that was an exhibition bout on the level of RJJ vs Tyson.


they fought once in their prime and RJJ won easy. Period.

[IronDanHamza]

smooth brain take


LMFAO completely shot to bits roy jones. that was an exhibition bout on the level of RJJ vs Tyson.


they fought once in their prime and RJJ won easy. Period.

Ok but the point seems to have gone over your head there.

You're listing Broner as a "3 weight champion" as if that means anything, when, it doesn't.

Roy Jones was a 4 division Champion. So.....What now? If you are going to use "3 division champion" as some kind of point of merit then you have to do the same for Roy Jones.

The point is both wins are as good as meaningless. Both were unranked at the weight, both are not legitimate wins.

Please, tell me more how Winky Wright was "shot" when he fought Hopkins even though he was P4P #3, the favourite to beat Hopkins and on the best run of his career you fucking retard

Or how Pacquaio beat Bradley when he was over 40

Log off buddy, you need a break.

[SouthpawRight]

You can't fight everyone at their primes. That is not possible at all. Point is Pacquio fought many prime HOFs and ATGs and won them very clearly.

Bradley 1 and Horn are clear robberies. Bradley was competitive but no way he won that fight. Horn catched everything with his face, this is not debatable at all, this is boxing, not wrestling.

All Marquez fights were all close competitive fights.

inaccurate

manny lost the decision because he was outworked by Horn

Marquez 3 was a clear robbery. Marquez won 9 rounds

manny won rounds 1, 11, and 12

[IronDanHamza]

Jake Paul's KO win over Tyson is gonna count too then right?


As a matter of fact, Kevin Mcbride is an ATG, he already KOed Tyson.

Are you missing the part where you listed an unranked , 0-1-1 in his last 2 fights Adrien Broner as a good win because he's a "3 divison champion"?

People are using your own flawed logic to show why you're an idiot, idiot.

[gamesworn]

inaccurate

manny lost the decision because he was outworked by Horn

Marquez 3 was a clear robbery. Marquez won 9 rounds

manny won rounds 1, 11, and 12

Outworked by what? Elbows? lmao

Marquez is only robbery in the eyes of casuals. Many ringside scores had it close, even Lederman had Manny winning.

Would you agree that Maidana won against Mayweather because he got outworked? Unlike Horn, Maidana actually landed some great shot against Mayweather and much more convicing but still didn't won the fight.