Canelo’s Resume vs Pacquiao’s Resume

[IceTrayDaGang]

Yeah exactly, thus the entire point.

At no point did I say Pacquaio was finished after 2012, not only was he not finished, he proved himself to be still one of the best fighters in the world.

I said he didn't dominate the new WW era which began after Mayweather retired in 2015.

I think your lack of english has you struggling to understand the words here.

TC wasnt even ranked at WW until 2018!!! LOL!!!! that's one of the "new era" you were speaking of!!! in 2017, thurman was at #1... pac fought and beat thurman in 2019!!!

[IronDanHamza]

the new era of WW wasnt even ranked at all!!!! so if pac wasnt dominating during this time then name the fighters who were in the picture????????? you tried to come in with your lies and got proven wrong.

I'm not sure you understand how eras work.

Up to 2015, it was still the Mayweather/Pacquaio era.

The new crop of WW's began rising the to top from 2016 onward (the new era).

The claim was Pacquaio dominated that new era. When, he objectively did not.

I don't know what part you don't get.

[IronDanHamza]

TC wasnt even ranked at WW until 2018!!! LOL!!!! that's one of the "new era" you were speaking of!!! in 2017, thurman was at #1... pac fought and beat thurman in 2019!!!

Right yeah like I said, Thurman is the one guy from the new era Pacquaio fought.

Yeah, I know, Crawford moved up and beat Horn to join the new era.

You seem incredibly confused.

[IronDanHamza]

you said he was never at #1 again... barely in the picture.. now you trying to twist your words around LMAO!!

2014 - pac #1, the KO from marquez was in 2012. so after the KO, he wad ranked #1, proven you wrong! LOL

I said the was never the #1 ranked WW yes, which he wasn't.

He was the #1 ranked contender in 2014 but he wasn't the #1 WW in the world, that was Mayweather. As your link showed.

[IronDanHamza]

2014, he was ranked at #1... from 2012-2020 he was on the ranking for WW, so no, he wasn;t "barely in the picture".... guys like TC, spence wasnt even ranked until later on. these were the new era WW you were speaking of LOL!!!

#1 contender yes, never disputed that.

I said he was never THE #1 WW after 2012, which we've established from your link that he wasn't. He was never the Top WW in the world ever again after that loss.

I said he was barely in the picture AFTER Mayweather and Horn, just to further clarify as you seem confused, he was never at the top of the divison, during that new crop of WW's.

He was a contender, I never disputed that. I disputed that he dominated the new WW era, which he didn't.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I'm not sure you understand how eras work.

Up to 2015, it was still the Mayweather/Pacquaio era.

The new crop of WW's began rising the to top from 2016 onward (the new era).

The claim was Pacquaio dominated that new era. When, he objectively did not.

I don't know what part you don't get.

TC wasnt even ranked at WW until 2018!!!!!! you said the new era of WW are brook, spence, TC, thurman, porter... only brook and porter were ranked!!!! spence wasnt even ranked at WW until 2015 and he was at #9!!! pac was at #2!! LMAO!!!!!!

in 2015, spence finally made it to the WW ranking at #9. Pac was at #2!!!

in 2016, spence was at #8, pac was at #4

in 2017, spence finally made it to the top 3 at #2, and pac at #9 (because of the lost to horn)

in 2018, crawford finally made it to the WW ranking

so explain your "new era WW"???? LMAO!!!!!

[IceTrayDaGang]

I said the was never the #1 ranked WW yes, which he wasn't.

He was the #1 ranked contender in 2014 but he wasn't the #1 WW in the world, that was Mayweather. As your link showed.

floyd was the champion as the link show, and pac #1..

i mean the list is right here!!
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[IceTrayDaGang]

Right yeah like I said, Thurman is the one guy from the new era Pacquaio fought.

Yeah, I know, Crawford moved up and beat Horn to join the new era.

You seem incredibly confused.

but you said the new era of WW is brook, spence, crawford, thurman, porter.... BUT TC didnt even make it to the WW until 2018!!!! in 2015 spence was at #9!!! while pac was at #2!!!! how is that not dominating??????

[IceTrayDaGang]

Right yeah like I said, Thurman is the one guy from the new era Pacquaio fought.

Yeah, I know, Crawford moved up and beat Horn to join the new era.

You seem incredibly confused.

in 2015, brook was at #1, spence was at #9!! pac was #2, porter was #6!!! thurman was at #5, TC didnt even make the list!!

so from your "new era" of WW, only brook was at #1 and pac was right behind at #2!!! spence, porter, thurman was ALL behind manny!!! so how is that not dominating the new era??????

[IronDanHamza]

TC wasnt even ranked at WW until 2018!!!!!! you said the new era of WW are brook, spence, TC, thurman, porter... only brook and porter were ranked!!!! spence wasnt even ranked at WW until 2015 and he was at #9!!! pac was at #2!! LMAO!!!!!!

in 2015, spence finally made it to the WW ranking at #9. Pac was at #2!!!

in 2016, spence was at #8, pac was at #4

in 2017, spence finally made it to the top 3 at #2, and pac at #9 (because of the lost to horn)

in 2018, crawford finally made it to the WW ranking

so explain your "new era WW"???? LMAO!!!!!

Well yeah, the era doesn't just magically appear out of thin era. It builds and establishes over time.

The next era of WW's after 2007-2015 (The Mayweather/Pacquaio era) was Crawofrd, Spence, Porter, Brook, Thurman, etc (2016-2023) and now, a new one is slowly forming. That's how eras work, they usually last between 5-10 years, somewhere inbetween.

I find it baffling this needs explaining to you.

Pacquaio (along with Floyd) DOMINATED his WW era, and boxing era in general. He did not dominate the next WW era after his and Floyd's, and he was barely in the picture (at the top), but he was a contender, which is a great thing itself at that age.

He simply didn't dominate the new era after his, it's just literally as simple as that.