Comments Thread For: Daniel Dubois and Anthony Joshua Involved In Altercation Ahead Of Big-Fight Announcement

[billeau2]

The word salad king of Bscene has spoken.

Do me a favour, mate, don't speak to me again unless you have something worthwhile to say.

Lol... calling out your bs put your panties in a knot mate? Good! It should. Stop trashing the lineal you ful!

[billeau2]

Anybody who has followed boxing, especially the HW division, for any length of time, knows that this is not true.

Mike Tyson unified all 3 title belts to become the first undisputed champion of the 3 belt era. He didn't need to then ko "lineal champion" Michael Spinks in order to be recognised by boxing fans all over the world as The Man in the HW division.

Going into that fight, we all knew that Iron Mike was the real HW champ and Spinks was a pretender looking for a payday.

A few years later, WBC champ Lennox Lewis KO'd "lineal" champ Shannon Briggs, but Lennox was not recognised by fans nor journalists as THE world HW champ until he won the WBA and IBF belts from Holyfield.

Tyson Fury made a big deal of his bogus lineal title when he came back from 2 years out after beating Wlad and sold fights against the likes of Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin as world title fights. But nobody outside of his most deluded fanboys recognised Fury as world HW champion until he won the WBC title from Wilder.

Usyk is now universally recognised as the REAL HW champ. But that has everything to do with him unifying all 4 title belts and nothing to with him winning the fantasy lineal title from Fury.

Did you read the post? no you didn't... So to you fans do not have the right to call a champion a champion? Really? lol. You is a ful!

The lineal is there for when it is needed... Simple. Sometimes it is not needed, great! Again, just because I have a fire extinguisher does not mean I have to let it rip... And Usyk's success has everything to do with beating Fury you ful. Sometimes the lineal means nothing... That is not the important point. Things become important when there is confusion and the champions are not beating the best to be champions. Then the lineal is necessary to keep things straight.

Fury made a big deal blah blah... No ful... The fans recognized what it meant to beat Vlad... Fury says lots of things... Fury and his lineal understanding is as irrelavant to the lineal as your understanding.

Anyhow thats enough... Go back to your troll cave and I will continue my word salad.... Bye ful.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Perhaps posthumously isn't the word you were looking for?

I've been trying to figure out what similar word could possibly fit in here. Ex post facto or maybe retroactive perhaps?

That slip was, and I'm going to stretch for the joke here...a little post humorous?

[kafkod]

Did you read the post? no you didn't... So to you fans do not have the right to call a champion a champion? Really? lol. You is a ful!

The lineal is there for when it is needed... Simple. Sometimes it is not needed, great! Again, just because I have a fire extinguisher does not mean I have to let it rip... And Usyk's success has everything to do with beating Fury you ful. Sometimes the lineal means nothing... That is not the important point. Things become important when there is confusion and the champions are not beating the best to be champions. Then the lineal is necessary to keep things straight.

Fury made a big deal blah blah... No ful... The fans recognized what it meant to beat Vlad... Fury says lots of things... Fury and his lineal understanding is as irrelavant to the lineal as your understanding.

Anyhow thats enough... Go back to your troll cave and I will continue my word salad.... Bye ful.

Of course Usyk's success had everything to with beating Fury, because Fury held the WBC title, which Usyk needed in order to become the undisputed champion.

Are you really daft enough to not understand that?

When Usyk was asked how much the lineal title meant to him, he replied, "Lineal title? I don't know what that means"

[harry-greb]

It was downright silly. Dubois deserves all the respect and love of the fans... But it really becomes cringy when the word "champion" becomes a commodity devalued through constant watering down... Adulterated by agencies with financial stakes.

Dubois will feel better trying to be a champ in the ring... At least I would imagine so.

He's gotta beat Usyk (again) to be the champ

[harry-greb]

Anybody who has followed boxing, especially the HW division, for any length of time, knows that this is not true.

Mike Tyson unified all 3 title belts to become the first undisputed champion of the 3 belt era. He didn't need to then ko "lineal champion" Michael Spinks in order to be recognised by boxing fans all over the world as The Man in the HW division.

Going into that fight, we all knew that Iron Mike was the real HW champ and Spinks was a pretender looking for a payday.

A few years later, WBC champ Lennox Lewis KO'd "lineal" champ Shannon Briggs, but Lennox was not recognised by fans nor journalists as THE world HW champ until he won the WBA and IBF belts from Holyfield.

Tyson Fury made a big deal of his bogus lineal title when he came back from 2 years out after beating Wlad and sold fights against the likes of Tom Schwarz and Otto Wallin as world title fights. But nobody outside of his most deluded fanboys recognised Fury as world HW champion until he won the WBC title from Wilder.

Usyk is now universally recognised as the REAL HW champ. But that has everything to do with him unifying all 4 title belts and nothing to with him winning the fantasy lineal title from Fury.

"Spinks was a pretender looking for a payday"????
Get a grip. Spinks had beaten the best heavyweight of the era, who had beaten Ali who had beaten Spinks, who had beaten Ali who had beaten George....
So u prefer to recognise a fighter who hoovers up trinkets that were "stripped" from other fighters, rather than the man who beat the man???

[kafkod]

"Spinks was a pretender looking for a payday"????
Get a grip. Spinks had beaten the best heavyweight of the era, who had beaten Ali who had beaten Spinks, who had beaten Ali who had beaten George....
So u prefer to recognise a fighter who hoovers up trinkets that were "stripped" from other fighters, rather than the man who beat the man???

Iron Mike went into his fight with Spinks as the undisputed HW champion of the world and an overwhelming favourite to retain his titles by crushing Spinks, which is exactly what happened.

The fact that Spinks had once beaten a washed up Holmes and his brother had once beaten a washed up Ali meant absolutely nothing.

The man who beat the man is for historians. Poring over results of fights between other men that happened generations ago is no way to decide who is the best man right now.

[harry-greb]

Iron Mike went into his fight with Spinks as the undisputed HW champion of the world and an overwhelming favourite to retain his titles by crushing Spinks, which is exactly what happened.

The fact that Spinks had once beaten a washed up Holmes and his brother had once beaten a washed up Ali meant absolutely nothing.

The man who beat the man is for historians. Poring over results of fights between other men that happened generations ago is no way to decide who is the best man right now.

An undisputed trinket holder, which is what he was. After he beat Spinks, he became the Lineal and true World Heavyweight champion.

In boxing, to be the champ, you gotta beat the champ, not fight for meaningless trinkets stripped from other fighters. Tyson knew

[kafkod]

An undisputed trinket holder, which is what he was. After he beat Spinks, he became the Lineal and true World Heavyweight champion.

In boxing, to be the champ, you gotta beat the champ, not fight for meaningless trinkets stripped from other fighters. Tyson knew

Haven't you noticed that lineage only comes into the conversation when, for whatever reason, the best men in the division are not fighting each other?

If the best fight the best consistently, there is no need to worry about the lineage. It will take care of itself.

Usyk has said that being the lineal champion means nothing to him. Reason being that Usyk fights whoever, wherever. He doesn't need to resort to any, "I beat him and he beat him ..." bullcrap to validate his championship status.

[harry-greb]

Haven't you noticed that lineage only comes into the conversation when, for whatever reason, the best men in the division are not fighting each other?

If the best fight the best consistently, there is no need to worry about the lineage. It will take care of itself.

Usyk has said that being the lineal champion means nothing to him. Reason being that Usyk fights whoever, wherever. He doesn't need to resort to any, "I beat him and he beat him ..." bullcrap to validate his championship status.

Not really, but I have noticed how how these alphabet gangsters have seeped into minds of boxing fans, to the detriment of the sport.

It doesn't really matter what Usyk thinks, one way or the other. Fact of the matter is, he beat Fury. He is Now THE World Heavyweight Champion (no matter how many or how few of those gaudy belts he has)

Just on Usyk, I presume u consider the winner of Joshua - Dubois, World Heavyweight Champion