Uysk would not be a long time champ in the 90’s

[Shrap]

1 it's not a myth it's on video showing the legal bodyshot

2. Fury won the rounds he threw bodyshots and later gassed. If you are winning the rounds most people would call that effective

Carry on

So Fury later gassed but Usyk didn't? In fact Usyk nearly knocked Fury out in the 9th after he'd taken all those body shots.

Seems like those body shots weren't so effective after all.

Carry on.

[M312]

Usyk is the greatest southpaw heavyweight ever.

That in itself is a problem for anyone in history.

They will have never faced, or sparred anyone with his skillset.
They would've found it hard to find any southpaws to spar, never mind Usyk.

[WillieWild114]

Usyk is the greatest southpaw heavyweight ever.

That in itself is a problem for anyone in history.

They will have never faced, or sparred anyone with his skillset.
They would've found it hard to find any southpaws to spar, never mind Usyk.

His body shot weakness would be taken advantage of by Heavyweights like Tua,Tyson,Holyfield

[PBR Streetgang]

On a side note:

DuBois has gained some cult, bogeyman status after a borderline punch and a couple wins over Big Baby and overrated Filip.

Before all of that, he was soft and a quitter because he opted not risk his damaged eye socket any more in a fight.

The pendulum swings of the hot takes by fans is ridiculous.

[WillieWild114]

So Fury later gassed but Usyk didn't? In fact Usyk nearly knocked Fury out in the 9th after he'd taken all those body shots.

Seems like those body shots weren't so effective after all.

Carry on.

Fury his taller longer and weaker that’s why his body shots were less effective.

[M312]

His body shot weakness would be taken advantage of by Heavyweights like Tua,Tyson,Holyfield

Maybe. But more likely is his southpaw stance and angles give them absolute fits.
They have never seen anything like him.

[billeau2]

The body shot myth continues even after Fury tried it and failed.

He could very easily have been a long reigning champ in the 90s. He has the skills and IQ to take on anyone and has the most crucial ability of all - the ability to continuously make adjustments to overcome his opponent. And he always finds a way to win.

Your not very perceptive, or are not looking carefully, hopefully the second... Watch when Fury has his moments in the fight and catches Usyk... Look at Usyk's face. Those shots hurt and his face registered concern for a reason. My point being, Fury was successful. It was a decent fight with back and fourth.

[Hous]

1 it's not a myth it's on video showing the legal bodyshot

2. Fury won the rounds he threw bodyshots and later gassed. If you are winning the rounds most people would call that effective

Carry on

It was clearly not a legal bodyshot. It was at best just slightly below the beltline, but it was objectively below the beltline no matter how you look at it. Some judges may not have called it, but it was the right call by the book and the ref had previously warned DDD he was going low.

[billeau2]

Uysk would most likely would not beat Larry Holmes who is way faster and longer.

Levels to the game... This is a really weak division. We have guys with decent Ammy skills like Povatkin, etc... The guys prior to Lewis had skills. Not even talking about Holmes per se... I mean guys like Shavers, Lyle, even Norton. And this persisted into the nineties with guys like Witherspoon, Tucker, Thomas, the list goes on and on.

Realistically the only two comprable fighters Usyk faced with that kind of ring savy were Bellew and maybe Hunter. In both fights Usyk had to resort to being more physical, and really did not outbox either man. If that sounds off, I implore anyone to watch the two fights and HOW Usyk won. No way he would be able to do that to guys with skill level and size back when Holmes ruled the roost.

Joshua is just not that good, or consistent, he has talent but does not have the technical savy of the division when it was filled with professionally trained fighters as opposed to Ammy trained guys. Fury? has the abilities and gave Usyk a real battle. If Fury wins the rematch it will show that Fury was beaten in a close fight but is the equal of Usyk and set up for another great trilogy. If Usyk manages to beat Fury then it shows he would be more competitive with the average work man like fighters in the Holmes epoche...

Regarding Holmes himself? He would destroy Usyk. His jab... And his chin. Usyk could not bully Holmes, and he could not neutralize the jab with footwork. At least I do not think so.

[billeau2]

On a side note:

DuBois has gained some cult, bogeyman status after a borderline punch and a couple wins over Big Baby and overrated Filip.

Before all of that, he was soft and a quitter because he opted not risk his damaged eye socket any more in a fight.

The pendulum swings of the hot takes by fans is ridiculous.

I do not know what you are talking about! This pendulum effect... Humph! where fans see one fight and assume grandiose, illogical conclusions. Your the type of poster that does not think Tank Davis is the greatest lightweight ever, and did not surpass Floyd, with his master victory over the average, I mean... great Martin!