I cant stand some of these ***ing fraud mexican-american fighters

[two_guns]

im a boxing fan, im not into boxing to be a mexican fan. i have some german blood but i like felix sturm because of felix sturm.

what about the fact that he beat del la hoya's ass and didn't get the credit for it.

[tito yuca]

[Motofan]

I dont understand how anyone can claim to be of certain nationality when they were not either born or raised there, it must be one of the other, otherwise that is not your nationality as far as im concerned.

Quoted for truth. The thread starter is denying his German roots which would make him no better then a Mexican fighter denying his Mexican roots.

[Motofan]

I cant wait until the day a white anglo american fighter comes out and tells the camera he's doing it for england lololol

[Vasyl’s dad]

idiot? lol speak for yourself...

there are 2 names i stated as examples in my case, ronnie rios and rocky juarez, both are 1st generation mexican-americans, so take your back ground story elsewhere because i just found out you dont belong in this conversation.

that was off topic from my point but now that you brought this subject to my attention, you are kinda trying to make a statement that all 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation mexican-americans are proud of their heritage and still keep it alive. i havent done research but im sure, and i know many would agree that if we had proven numbers, the majority of these mexican-americans wouldnt give a single **** about their roots. people that supposably are proud of their heritage as you state, are a large minority.

But,


you're German.

I am Mexican.


I speak from experience,

you speak from getting a wild hair up your ass.

[Al Haymon]

ummm, yea thats pretty much a big part of it lol. how else would they give a **** about their heritage? by eating tacos at the local restaurant? you cant go around indulging in a heritage that is largely centered around language can you? if you speak a certain language, its probably because you live your life based on what is attached to that language. im sure these fighters you are standing up for listen to music they dont understand, participate in mexican traditions that require socializing, travel to mexico with out their little english-spanish dictionary...

Zarco,

Here is what happens, from MY observations:

If it is somebody that Mexicans want to distance themselves from, they say "Oh, he doesn't even speak Spanish".

If it is somebody that they are trying to embrace, then "Ah, it's OK. He wasn't taught Spanish. But his abuela is Mexican".


There is a deep level of duplicity and self-hate involved.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Zarco,

Here is what happens, from MY observations:

If it is somebody that Mexicans want to distance themselves from, they say "Oh, he doesn't even speak Spanish".

If it is somebody that they are trying to embrace, then "Ah, it's OK. He wasn't taught Spanish. But his abuela is Mexican".


There is a deep level of duplicity and self-hate involved.

You're looking at it from the wrong perspective though, the fans side.


Hes talking about the side of the actual boxer, which he seems to believe is some made up pride.


What you're saying isn't wrong, but its just not the perspective hes talking about.

[Al Haymon]

Tom,

As a proud Mexican, and somebody who is probably closely tied-in to the Mexican community, what did you hear about Alberto Gonzalez?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Tom,

As a proud Mexican, and somebody who is probably closely tied-in to the Mexican community, what did you hear about Alberto Gonzalez?

Absolutely


nothing.

[BOLLOCKS]

Fuck Spanish, that **** is for Spaniards.