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  • #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Not a straw man. Proof of your bias.

    You think Martin is weak only because it’s Tank. When GGG beat Ouma, you acted like he beat prime Kasim.

    Stop giving artificial credit when he didn’t fight the guys.

    Tank has not fought Loma. Loma hasn’t fought Shakur. As I said many times, Tank could’ve fought both.

    Geez dude enough.
    that is literally a straw man lmao! i never ever said that about ouma. do you know what a straw man even is?

    i give ggg credit for beating 12 top 10 guys and i give him credit for trying to fight guys like pirog, quillin, saunders, sturm, etc...i dont put those guys on his resume even though he never fought them. there is nothing artificial there. the same way i give ggg credit for trying to fight the top guys, i criticize tank for not trying to fight the top guys. why dont you understand that? tanks resume is bad for a reason. gggs is good for a reason. yes gggs could have been better but he didnt have control over other fighters. tank has full control and wont make the fights.

    i just think martin is unproven. i dont see any reason hes in the top 5 where the guys ggg fought you could make compelling cases as to why they were there for example:murata had 2 top 10 wins, jacobs had just beaten the #2 guy, lemiuex had a top 5 win, macklin got robbed against sturm who was top 5, geale had 2 top 5 wins, murray was robbed against the #1 guy, etc...martin has never even fought a top 10 guy. you see the difference?
    Last edited by daggum; 06-12-2024, 02:40 PM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      Where was he in TBRB?
      he was 7th lol

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      • #63
        Originally posted by daggum View Post

        that is literally a straw man lmao! i never ever said that about ouma. do you know what a straw man even is?

        i give ggg credit for beating 12 top 10 guys and i give him credit for trying to fight guys like pirog, quillin, saunders, sturm, etc...i dont put those guys on his resume even though he never fought them. there is nothing artificial there. the same way i give ggg credit for trying to fight the top guys, i criticize tank for not trying to fight the top guys. why dont you understand that? tanks resume is bad for a reason. gggs is good for a reason. yes gggs could have been better but he didnt have control over other fighters. tank has full control and wont make the fights.

        i just i think martin is unproven. i dont see any reason hes in the top 5 where the guys ggg fought you could make compelling cases as to why they were there for example:murata had 2 top 10 wins, jacobs had just beaten the #2 guy, lemiuex had a top 5 win, macklin got robbed against sturm who was top 5, geale had 2 top 5 wins, murray was robbed against the #1 guy, etc...martin has never even fought a top 10 guy. you see the difference?
        Yes you did. You acted like he just beat a prime Ouma.

        Like I said, you give ggg credit. When it’s a boxer you don’t like, you find one way or another to question the ranking. It’s extremely biased.

        Stop giving artificial credit for fight’s that didn’t happen. You don’t get credit for trying to make a fight happen. You have no idea why those fights fell through.

        Also let’s be real- you find a way to criticize guys when they do try to make a fight happen - Floyd and Manny- if it’s someone you don’t like. You make excuses when the guy turns it down.

        Tank’s resume is better than you will admit. If he was Tankovich, you’d be fine with it.

        He beat an undefeated Rivera in a battle of up and coming young LW’s. I believe Rivera was in the bottom of the top 10.

        Martin is not as old or past it as the ggg opponents were. That is true.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-12-2024, 02:47 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by daggum View Post

          he was 7th lol
          How was he 7th? He was the IBF SFW champion with 2 title defenses going into the Tank fight

          edit- I checked the rankings. He was 7th. I stand corrected.

          But let’s look at the context.

          Tank, not ranked in the top 10 at SFW, steps up to fight a top 7 boxer, a champion with 2 title defenses, and that isn’t an a strong win to you?

          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 06-12-2024, 03:05 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            Not a real star. Lmfao. You just make no sense.

            No it isn’t. Some can earn big, like Tank, some are just small time, like Loma.

            People don’t just like boxers because of who they fight. A casual like you wouldn’t understand that.
            Noooooooo he questioned the number of hours a spend preoccupied with pugilism!

            Typical fraudulent Yank behaviour. Your days are numbered anyway with this Saudi take over.

            When all boxers are fighting under one banner there won't be any American fraud allowed anymore lol all these guys will have many losses before they can milk the public of undeserved money and fame. Its gonna be a new golden era of boxing .

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