Comments Thread For: Naoya Inoue Rules Out Immediate Move To Featherweight

[famicommander]

That does not matter, there are boxers to choose from, and it's not like it's deep division, far from it.

Korea's Kim will do, or China's Liu ( 19-1 ) who lost to Goodman will do. All the fight would need is a little marketing. The fight would be BIG in Asia. Lots of $$$. Kim or Liu vs. " Monster zero. Sounds like a Godzilla movie. By the way, according to box rec there are 37 Chinese super bantam weights. A buddy of mine ( he was a captain in the Navy stationed in Japan ) told me about the relations there. Not to stick a knife in it, but hate is a dull word to describe the relationships between Japan and them.

Nonito Donaire, age 39 is his signature win. That is a problem.

You are insane. He sold out the Tokyo Dome, he doesn't need help selling fights.

Naoya Inoue's resume (TBRB rankings used, "world title" means full WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO belts and not secondary or interim):
W vs #10 Ryoichi Taguchi UD 10 (future WBA/IBF/Ring 108)
W vs #1 Adrian Hernandez TKO 6 (fmr. and reigning WBC 108)
W vs #1 Omar Narvaez KO 2 (fmr. WBO 112; reigning WBO 115)
W vs #8 Kohei Kono TKO 6 (fmr. 2X WBA 112)
W vs #5 Jamie McDonnell TKO 1 (fmr. IBF 118)
W vs #5 Juan Carlos Payano KO 1 (fmr. WBA 118)
W vs #6 Emmanuel Rodriguez KO 2 (reigning and future IBF 118)
W vs #4 Nonito Donaire UD 12 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; reigning WBA 118; future WBC 118)
W vs #8 Jason Moloney KO 7 (future WBO 118)
W vs #2 Nonito Donaire TKO 2 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; WBA 118; reigning WBC 118)
W vs #8 Paul Butler KO 11 (fmr. IBF 118; reigning WBO 118)
W vs #1 Stephen Fulton TKO 8 (reigning WBC/WBO 122)
W vs #2 Marlon Tapales KO 10 (reigning WBA/IBF 122)
W vs #3 Luis Nery KO 6 (fmr. WBC 118; WBC 122)

Other notable victories: Petchbarngborn Kokietgym, Antonio Nieves, Michael Dasmarinas

14-0 vs top 10
9-0 vs top 5
5-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Inoue was #1)
14-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
8-0 vs reigning world titlists
6-0 in unification fights
20-0 in world title fights (not counting WBA Regular)
4-0 in lineal world championship fights
27-0-0-0 overall record, 24 KOs

108: WBC
112: (none)
115: WBO
118: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
122: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed

2 division lineal world champion
2 division undisputed world champion
4 division world titlist

[Dr. Z]

I am taking about his signature win, not the laundry list guys from 108-1122 he beat.

A Chinese or Korean opponent will be HUGE. If he won't move up to 126, maybe he can fight one of them? It is not all about the Japanese tickets! China or Korea will back the man, I assure you.

[BlackRobb]

I don’t but ok.

I think it would like 2 years at least before they would even be close to fighting.

Yeah, he is relative to Inoue.

I just don’t think Inoue should rush to 126. No need imo given there are good fights and much to accomplish at 122.

Funny how guys at 126 are trying to rush Inoue up the scale, but they don't say sht about fighting El Venado Lopez (IBF champ) or the guy who washed El Tren Ramirez for the WBO belt.

[famicommander]

I am taking about his signature win, not the laundry list guys from 108-1122 he beat.

A Chinese or Korean opponent will be HUGE. If he won't move up to 126, maybe he can fight one of them? It is not all about the Japanese tickets! China or Korea will back the man, I assure you.

There are no Chinese or Korean opponents remotely close to being deserving of an Inoue fight. There's not a single Chinese or Korean fighter in the top 10 by any independent media outlet and there's not a single one in the top 15 of any of the official sanctioning body rankings. People are critical of him even fighting former world titlists like Doheny or Casimero; fighting a completely untested, unranked fighter just because of their nationality would be ludicrous.

Akhmadaliev and Goodman need to be the priorities. Then maybe a Casimero or Doheny fight before he moves up, if he feels like it.

There is no fighter out there right now below 126 that would be a bigger "signature win" than Adrian Hernandez, Omar Narvaez, Nonito Donaire, Stephen Fulton, etc already were.

[The Big Dunn]

Funny how guys at 126 are trying to rush Inoue up the scale, but they don't say sht about fighting El Venado Lopez (IBF champ) or the guy who washed El Tren Ramirez for the WBO belt.

They see the conversion rate of Yen and want that fat payday lol.

[Malvado]

Naoya Inoue should have the right to decide when he wants to move up, he is specifically targeting top competition in every bout. If there are still multiple viable options at 122 then he is still accomplishing quite well.

126 might be his ceiling, which is currently filled with opponents that will prove quite physically more taxing to beat, and quite varied in terms of skill.

There is like:

-Brandon Figueroa a 5'8 volume pressure fighter.

-Relentless and durable in-fighter Nick Ball.

-The 72 inch reach counter puncher in Bruce Carrington.

-The unorthodox big puncher in Luis Alberto Lopez.

-Otabek Kholmatov the quite athletic pure boxer that throws long range combinations while moving in the ring.

-The complete and hard hitting gold medalist southpaw in Robeisy Ramirez.

-The 6'1 pure boxer with insane cardio conditioning and punch output Rafael Espinoza.

[IronDanHamza]

You are insane. He sold out the Tokyo Dome, he doesn't need help selling fights.

Naoya Inoue's resume (TBRB rankings used, "world title" means full WBA/WBC/IBF/WBO belts and not secondary or interim):
W vs #10 Ryoichi Taguchi UD 10 (future WBA/IBF/Ring 108)
W vs #1 Adrian Hernandez TKO 6 (fmr. and reigning WBC 108)
W vs #1 Omar Narvaez KO 2 (fmr. WBO 112; reigning WBO 115)
W vs #8 Kohei Kono TKO 6 (fmr. 2X WBA 112)
W vs #5 Jamie McDonnell TKO 1 (fmr. IBF 118)
W vs #5 Juan Carlos Payano KO 1 (fmr. WBA 118)
W vs #6 Emmanuel Rodriguez KO 2 (reigning and future IBF 118)
W vs #4 Nonito Donaire UD 12 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; reigning WBA 118; future WBC 118)
W vs #8 Jason Moloney KO 7 (future WBO 118)
W vs #2 Nonito Donaire TKO 2 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; WBA 118; reigning WBC 118)
W vs #8 Paul Butler KO 11 (fmr. IBF 118; reigning WBO 118)
W vs #1 Stephen Fulton TKO 8 (reigning WBC/WBO 122)
W vs #2 Marlon Tapales KO 10 (reigning WBA/IBF 122)
W vs #3 Luis Nery KO 6 (fmr. WBC 118; WBC 122)

Other notable victories: Petchbarngborn Kokietgym, Antonio Nieves, Michael Dasmarinas

14-0 vs top 10
9-0 vs top 5
5-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Inoue was #1)
14-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
8-0 vs reigning world titlists
6-0 in unification fights
20-0 in world title fights (not counting WBA Regular)
4-0 in lineal world championship fights
27-0-0-0 overall record, 24 KOs

108: WBC
112: (none)
115: WBO
118: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
122: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed

2 division lineal world champion
2 division undisputed world champion
4 division world titlist

Stop citing your rankings when you pick and chose when they matter.

It means nothing.

[famicommander]

Stop citing your rankings when you pick and chose when they matter.

It means nothing.

You've been butthurt for a month solid that I said Butler as Inoue's 14th best win is decent.

Get a life.

[IronDanHamza]

You've been butthurt for a month solid that I said Butler as Inoue's 14th best win is decent.

Get a life.

Couldn't give a shit about Paul Butler. It's comical you cite it as some good win then move the goalpost for others fighters that you don't like. But that's about it.

I'm just letting you know nobody cares about your rankings, not since you pick and chose when they matter. It literally deems them meaningless because they only matter to you when it's a fighter you like like Inoue who you seem to be ***ually attracted to.

It's commonly known as a moving the goalpost fallacy. So yeah, just making you aware when you type out those rankings that make me cream your pants about Inoue, no one takes you seriously. Nor should they.

[famicommander]

Couldn't give a shit about Paul Butler. It's comical you cite it as some good win then move the goalpost for others fighters that you don't like. But that's about it.

I'm just letting you know nobody cares about your rankings, not since you pick and chose when they matter. It literally deems them meaningless because they only matter to you when it's a fighter you like like Inoue who you seem to be ***ually attracted to.

It's commonly known as a moving the goalpost fallacy. So yeah, just making you aware when you type out those rankings that make me cream your pants about Inoue, no one takes you seriously. Nor should they.

I never moved any goal posts, you just completely lack reading comprehension and react like an emotional child whenever people post things you don't agree with or understand.

Here is the source of this disagreement:
I posted Butler's rankings and title accomplishments
Then I posted Dillian Whyte's

Then I said I disagreed with Whyte's ranking, because I considered his division weak and his wins overrated (partially due to his headbutt knockdown over Parker). That's it. I listed both fighters the same, with their rankings. I didn't pick and choose anything, I listed them both equally regardless of my personal agreement with them. Because that's being consistent.

And you, because you for some reason hate Paul Butler whom I don't even care the slightest bit about, have become completely unhinged about it and have decided to throw a fit every time I post a fighter resume.

Well, guess what? I will continue to post those resumes. Next time Inoue fights I'll update it. Next time Crawford fights, I'll update it. Next time Usyk fights, I'll update it. And I'll post them, and people who are not emotional manbabies will understand the context surrounding them and simply view it as an interesting tidbit of information. While you'll meltdown about it.