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  • #51
    Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

    Well then where was your enthusiasm when this guy pissed dirty
    Your to transparent my friend
    I didn’t have to. Since, the State of Nevada has already taken disciplinary action against him.

    I really don’t understand what your logic is here. However, there’s one thing I do know and that is to this day.

    The NYSAC has yet to rule or have taken any disciplinary action against Ryan Garcia for pissing hot.

    Not only did he popped dirty four times while being hopped up on dope but he also states that he never had any intentions of making weight.

    Which is why he came in 3 and 1/4 lbs over the 140 pound weight limit.
    Last edited by champion4ever; 06-09-2024, 04:25 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
      I didn’t have to. Since, the State of Nevada has already taken disciplinary action against him.

      I really don’t understand what your logic is here. However, what I do know to this day.

      That the NYSAC has yet to rule or have taken any disciplinary action against Ryan Garcia for pissing hot.

      Not only did he popped dirty while being hopped up on dope. He also stated that he never had any intentions of making weight anyhow in order to cheat.

      Which is why he came in 3 and 1/4 lbs over the 140 pound weight limit.
      It took three months to convict Martinez
      Why so long ???
      You make it sound like it happened overnight
      Again , you are very transparent and your agenda is easy to identify

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      • #53
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        By you know what he’s like, you mean a total retard?

        ShoulderRoll Is there any reason you randomly brought up Conor Benn for no reason?

        This thread is about Martinez, who you call a “repeat” cheater, but his first failed test is the exact same scenario as Canelo’s where he failed for clen and blamed it on meat and was cleared for it the same way.

        Or do you only give Canelo those kind of passes?
        Pretty much. Haha.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

          Not sure what you’re talking about. Martinez is Mexican and I said he needs to be punished. Just like Canelo was…all I say about Canelo is that he actually provided a believable explanation along with supporting evidence for why he tested positive.

          The Conor Benn comment was meant for the Pacquiao vs Barrios thread, I just mistakenly posted it here.
          Didn't Martinez and the others also have the same "Valid" reasons to why they failed a test the same way Canelo did? They all used the beef excuse. What's the difference? I've seen you claim the beef in Mexico is the reason why Canelo failed many times on here.

          The thing that baffles me when using this excuse is....Wouldn't every meat eating Mexican athlete repeatedly fail tests if this was the case? They don't fail that many.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            You are only saying that because you are not a true boxing fan but a tribalist.

            So what is this agenda driven bias of yours which you are often referring to? Just spell it out.

            You don’t have to speak to me in heavily coded and cryptic language.

            I hear boxing fans across social media say all the time they know that Ryan Garcia is guilty but they just don’t seem to care like yourself.

            If anyone has an agenda here it’s you. However, you are attempting to project it upon me. All I want to know is the reason why?

            If all of your boxing heroes have to cheat in order to win because they cannot compete on an even and level playing then this is just.sad.

            That says a lot more about your character than mine. As far as Ryan Garcia is concerned; You’ve never met the loser. So why are you so defensive when he is criticized?

            How can a non boxing fan like yourself be objective by speaking the truth? It’s so obvious that you can’t; Due to your very deep and profound tribalism.

            You and your type have been hating on Devin Haney ever since he defeated Loma.Why?




            Bye bye

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              Didn't Martinez and the others also have the same "Valid" reasons to why they failed a test the same way Canelo did? They all used the beef excuse. What's the difference? I've seen you claim the beef in Mexico is the reason why Canelo failed many times on here.

              The thing that baffles me when using this excuse is....Wouldn't every meat eating Mexican athlete repeatedly fail tests if this was the case? They don't fail that many.
              ShoulderRoll Struggles mightily with this concept He seems to only give Canelo a pass for some weird reason.

              He doesn’t even realise that a contaminated supplements excuse is no different to a contaminated meat excuse.

              He labels anyone who uses contamination as an excuse as a “cheater” but doesn’t consider Canelo a cheater.

              It’s comical.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                Didn't Martinez and the others also have the same "Valid" reasons to why they failed a test the same way Canelo did? They all used the beef excuse. What's the difference? I've seen you claim the beef in Mexico is the reason why Canelo failed many times on here.

                The thing that baffles me when using this excuse is....Wouldn't every meat eating Mexican athlete repeatedly fail tests if this was the case? They don't fail that many.
                Victor Conte said Canelo provided receipts to a restaurant with contaminated meat that was even traceable to a specific slaughterhouse.

                Martinez as far as I know never did the same.

                And Eggs Bennedict of course has never publicly explained where he got clomiphene-contaminated eggs in the UK, a region where clomiphene use in egg production is prohibited. Unlike the situation in Mexico where clenbuterol is a known legitimate problem in the beef industry.

                Do you see the differences?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                  Victor Conte said Canelo provided receipts to a restaurant with contaminated meat that was even traceable to a specific slaughterhouse.

                  Martinez as far as I know never did the same.

                  And Eggs Bennedict of course has never publicly explained where he got clomiphene-contaminated eggs in the UK, a region where clomiphene use in egg production is prohibited. Unlike the situation in Mexico where clenbuterol is a known legitimate problem in the beef industry.

                  Do you see the differences?
                  If it's a wide spread problem with the beef in Mexico, why would Canelo need to provide the restaurant receipt? It's everywhere isn't it?

                  Benn didn't use the egg excuse. That was Sulaiman. But not only that, Benn was training out of the country when he failed.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                    If it's a wide spread problem with the beef in Mexico, why would Canelo need to provide the restaurant receipt? It's everywhere isn't it?

                    Benn didn't use the egg excuse. That was Sulaiman. But not only that, Benn was training out of the country when he failed.
                    I’m just explaining to you why I feel that Canelo’s explanation was believable, as opposed to (and different from) the explanations of others.

                    Benn’s team provided the WBC with documented evidence of highly elevated egg consumption, the WBC didn’t just pull that out of their ass. He was training out of the country? Where exactly? And even if that was the case it shouldn’t have been too hard to name the places where he could have obtained contaminated eggs.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                      Victor Conte said Canelo provided receipts to a restaurant with contaminated meat that was even traceable to a specific slaughterhouse.

                      Martinez as far as I know never did the same.

                      And Eggs Bennedict of course has never publicly explained where he got clomiphene-contaminated eggs in the UK, a region where clomiphene use in egg production is prohibited. Unlike the situation in Mexico where clenbuterol is a known legitimate problem in the beef industry.

                      Do you see the differences?
                      There is no evidence that Canelo even ate said meat.

                      But even still, Martinez provided the same excuse and was cleared. How is it any different?

                      You ONCE AGAIN bring up eggs when Conor Benn’s solicitor has publicly stated that their lead evidence is CONTAMINATED SUPPLEMENTS. Why do you struggle to badly to understand that?

                      And, contaminated meat, and contaminated supplements, are just as feasible as one another.

                      What part of that do you not get?

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