Comments Thread For: Julio Cesar Martinez Suspended by Nevada Commission After Positive Test

[Sid-Knee]

I’m just explaining to you why I feel that Canelo’s explanation was believable, as opposed to (and different from) the explanations of others.

Benn’s team provided the WBC with documented evidence of highly elevated egg consumption, the WBC didn’t just pull that out of their ass. He was training out of the country? Where exactly? And even if that was the case it shouldn’t have been too hard to name the places where he could have obtained contaminated eggs.

Why wasn't Martinez's reason believable for you? What even was his reason? I mean, you've said repeatedly that there's a lot of tainted beef in Mexico so, it's the same thing is it not?

Benn's team provided the WBC with it being contaminated supplements. Benn said he never mentioned anything about eggs. Sulaiman was the one who came out with that reasoning. Unless you have proof otherwise?

[ShoulderRoll]

Why wasn't Martinez's reason believable for you? What even was his reason? I mean, you've said repeatedly that there's a lot of tainted beef in Mexico so, it's the same thing is it not?

Benn's team provided the WBC with it being contaminated supplements. Benn said he never mentioned anything about eggs. Sulaiman was the one who came out with that reasoning. Unless you have proof otherwise?

Clenbuterol in beef is a real problem in Mexico. But Canelo actually provided plenty of supporting evidence, I have never heard that Martinez did so as well to the same extent.

The WBC said that Benn provided a detailed breakdown of his diet.

[Sid-Knee]

Clenbuterol in beef is a real problem in Mexico. But Canelo actually provided plenty of supporting evidence, I have never heard that Martinez did so as well to the same extent.

The WBC said that Benn provided a detailed breakdown of his diet.

How do you know what argument Martinez put to the WBC? The only reason we know all about Canelo's is, he's the much bigger name. No one really cares about Martinez.

And what was it that Benn provided to the WBC? Did it mention anything about eggs being contaminated? Or did Sulaiman make assumptions?

[ShoulderRoll]

How do you know what argument Martinez put to the WBC? The only reason we know all about Canelo's is, he's the much bigger name. No one really cares about Martinez.

And what was it that Benn provided to the WBC? Did it mention anything about eggs being contaminated? Or did Sulaiman make assumptions?

Canelo was completely transparent. And he served his suspension, Martinez didn’t even get punished and no further action was required on his part according to the WBC.

Benn provided a detailed breakdown of his diet and the WBC noted highly elevated egg consumption.

[IronDanHamza]

Canelo was completely transparent. And he served his suspension, Martinez didn’t even get punished and no further action was required on his part according to the WBC.

So hold on, how was Martinez not transparent?

The WBC cleared him, so, that means the WBC deemed him less of a cheater than Canelo.

Yet one is believable and the other isn't? How do you reconcile that?

Benn provided a detailed breakdown of his diet and the WBC noted highly elevated egg consumption.

How do you know what Benn provided to the WBC?

Benn said himself he never cited eggs as his reason for testing postitive. The WBC did that on their own accord.

[IronDanHamza]

Clenbuterol in beef is a real problem in Mexico. But Canelo actually provided plenty of supporting evidence, I have never heard that Martinez did so as well to the same extent.

The WBC said that Benn provided a detailed breakdown of his diet.

What evidence was that?

None of it was remotely demonstrable.

[Sid-Knee]

Canelo was completely transparent. And he served his suspension, Martinez didn’t even get punished and no further action was required on his part according to the WBC.

Benn provided a detailed breakdown of his diet and the WBC noted highly elevated egg consumption.

How do you know Martinez wasn't transparent? The WBC cleared him. How do you know what he provided in the way of evidence? It must have been good as Canelo got banned for 6 months. Martinez didn't. Unless you can give a break down on how his explanation wasn't transparent or believable?

Benn gave a breakdown of his diet, yes. But he didn't make claim that the eggs were the cause. Sulaiman was the one who made the assumption.

[IronDanHamza]

How do you know Martinez wasn't transparent? The WBC cleared him. How do you know what he provided in the way of evidence? It must have been good as Canelo got banned for 6 months. Martinez didn't. Unless you can give a break down on how his explanation wasn't transparent or believable?

Benn gave a breakdown of his diet, yes. But he didn't make claim that the eggs were the cause. Sulaiman was the one who made the assumption.

I can already tell you what his response will be.

He will ignore every point you made and repeat the same thing again.

There is nothing you can say to him. I have literally broken it down as clearly, and easily as physically possible and he still just goes around spouting the same thing, how for some reason Canelo's contamination story is believable, and he's not a cheater and is clean and every body else's contamination story isn't believable and they are drug cheats.

It's mind blowing how detached from reality he is. I'd think he was doing it as joke if I didn't know how retarded he is.

[Sid-Knee]

I can already tell you what his response will be.

He will ignore every point you made and repeat the same thing again.

There is nothing you can say to him. I have literally broken it down as clearly, and easily as physically possible and he still just goes around spouting the same thing, how for some reason Canelo's contamination story is believable, and he's not a cheater and is clean and every body else's contamination story isn't believable and they are drug cheats.

It's mind blowing how detached from reality he is. I'd think he was doing it as joke if I didn't know how retarded he is.

Oh i can assure you. Shoulder is very serious. He isn't doing any of this as a joke. I know him too well.

[ShoulderRoll]

How do you know Martinez wasn't transparent? The WBC cleared him. How do you know what he provided in the way of evidence? It must have been good as Canelo got banned for 6 months. Martinez didn't. Unless you can give a break down on how his explanation wasn't transparent or believable?

Benn gave a breakdown of his diet, yes. But he didn't make claim that the eggs were the cause. Sulaiman was the one who made the assumption.

We know that Canelo provided restaurant receipts and even traced contaminated meat back to a specific slaughterhouse. Unless Martinez went to that extent as well then his explanation is less believable. It’s pretty simple.

Conor Benn threw a lot of crap against the wall to see of any of it stuck. At one point he said he thought chicken eggs could have caused his positive tests, and that he was eating between 30 and 34 eggs a week.