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  • HeadShots
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    Usyk would beat Ali but lost to Tyson

    He is definitely an ATG.

    he would make Foreman look like he has 2 left feet.

    he absolutely humiliated Gypsy king and made him look like dr eggman on stilts getting cartoonishly beat from one rope to the other.

    he would make Lennox look like he’s stuck in mud.

    he is basically Ali but bigger. even more skilled. Just as fast. Southpaw. He beats Ali



    frazier gets badly KOed




    The only guy I see in giving him problems is actually 88 Tyson. Horrendous matchup. U have to hold Tyson. Usyk doesn’t do that. Nobody has ever beat a Tyson away.
    Last edited by HeadShots; 05-30-2024, 02:31 PM.
  • Willow The Wisp
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    #2
    You are very excited. And that is good.

    Hopefully, Usyk will exhibit those skills for a few more years. And build on what he's done.

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    • Smash
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      #3
      its not long ago people were saying the same about fury, AJ was a beast for a time as well

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      • HeadShots
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        #4
        Originally posted by Smash
        its not long ago people were saying the same about fury, AJ was a beast for a time as well
        Fury isn’t that good. He’s a weight bully


        his greatest skill is leaning on smaller guys to tire them out.

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          #5
          Originally posted by HeadShots

          Fury isn’t that good. He’s a weight bully


          his greatest skill is leaning on smaller guys to tire them out.
          But didn't you just crown Usyk the Greatest on account of his 1 point split decision over Fury?
          Using weight is part of the game at heavyweight.

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          • The D3vil
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            #6
            Goodness, one of the most ridiculous posts ever on Boxing Scene

            Usyk as fast as Ali?

            Are you on drugs?

            Ali was literally timed to be almost as quick as Middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson, while being 50lbs heavier.

            He threw 11 punches in 3 seconds against Brian London

            Usyk isn't that "fast" or quick at all.

            He's not even as quick as Joe Frazier, Floyd Patterson, or Mike Tyson.

            Hell, he's not as fast as Chris Byrd or "Fast" Eddie Chambers.

            He moves better than today's giant HWs because most of them are overgrown & clumsy like AJ & Wilder.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #7
              The notion that Usyk is as fast as Muhammad Ali is just beyond words.

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              • Haka
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                #8
                Originally posted by HeadShots
                He is definitely an ATG.

                he would make Foreman look like he has 2 left feet.

                he absolutely humiliated Gypsy king and made him look like dr eggman on stilts getting cartoonishly beat from one rope to the other.

                he would make Lennox look like he’s stuck in mud.

                he is basically Ali but bigger. even more skilled. Just as fast. Southpaw. He beats Ali



                frazier gets badly KOed




                The only guy I see in giving him problems is actually 88 Tyson. Horrendous matchup. U have to hold Tyson. Usyk doesn’t do that. Nobody has ever beat a Tyson away.
                Against Tyson he may have a chance, can be one dimensional if he keeps loading up. Usyk could have a gameplan for that.

                Against Foremen he would walk against a wall, Foreman is much better than Breidis and that fight was competitive.

                Frazier can take his power and keep the fight dangerous with that left hook. Another fighter that is much better and more dangerous than Breidis. Would spell problems for Usyk.

                Lennox he can outbox.

                Against young Ali it is hard seeing Usyk deal with the speed. Against older Ali he may have a chance.
                Last edited by Haka; 05-30-2024, 05:25 PM.

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                • K--
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                  Both fighters with exceptional but totally divergent footwork styles; that would be the most interesting element of the matchup. Who has feet like Ali? I think Muhammad's hand speed and lead right hand would be big problems for Usyk.

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                  • HeadShots
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

                    But didn't you just crown Usyk the Greatest on account of his 1 point split decision over Fury?
                    Using weight is part of the game at heavyweight.
                    Yes it’s still a very effective skill. Just like mayweathers clinch.


                    he would easy lay and dirty box Marciano/frazier and even Mike Tyson to victory

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