Comments Thread For: Is Fury 'Damaged Goods' For the Usyk Rematch?

[ELPacman]

When Fury got clocked the first time in the 9th with an Usyk right-left, his hands were way low doing some really soft looking pitter pat uppercuts to the body, made me wonder if it was a trap, but no it wasn't. Looks worse in slo mo. He does that a lot, but normally he shoulder rolls and turns away. Hands always low.

It works great early in the fight when he has full energy and maximum reflects. As the fight wears on and the hands drop more, or become heavier to pull up quickly, that's when he's susceptible to allowing a monster shot to get in. Especially with the fact that Usyk, being the smaller guy, has naturally, pretty quick hands in comparison. Considering it was round 9, the speed at which Usyk through that left was very fast and I don't think Fury accounted for how quick it would come and caught him by surprise.

[Toffee]

If Fury did not catch that one shot, he wins the fight. And he caught it because he was sitting on the ropes. If he stays in the middle and keeps distance, he wins. Simple as that.

Simple hey?

He just needs to fight exactly the fight he wants. Stand where he wants. Maintain the distance that he wants.

That works until the other guy in the ring makes him go where he wants him to go and maintains the distance that he wants. And the other guy's movement is far superior.

Fury actually came straight out to the centre of the ring and got on the front foot... until Usyk starting hitting him with lefts to the body and knocked him back into the ropes with a left cross. That all happened in the first round.

So he already tried what you've suggested and he lost that battle within seconds of the fight starting.

[Boro]

I knew he had a lot of kids but 8? That's way too many kids in this day and age. Fury has enough trouble taking care of himself. I feel sorry for Paris. She probably doesn't have much say in the matter. I'm sure it's what Tyson says goes. At least a couple of those kids are likely going to have John's personality to boot. God help the UK!

Why is it a lot of kids!? everyone should be having a similar amount of kids assuming they can afford them.

More people are becoming old farts then they are being born, so who's going to support them when most women aren't even having kids until they're 30+ (geriatric pregnancy) and only having one or two if that...

"she probably doesn't have much of say" as opposed to Tyson who would have literally no say if she decided to not have anymore or choose to abort kids...

[hugh grant]

Oh stop, Fury never had a great chin, he had great recouperative abilities.

Like seriously, Usyk outlanded Fury by a total of 13 punches over 12 rounds, which is an average of 1 punch per round.

I had Fury winning by 1 round.

People act like it was some 1-sided beating because they hate Fury.

He could win the rematch because he could've won the 1st fight.

I wonder if Oliver mcall, or ray Mercer had great recuperating abilities? They had great chins.

[Gamboal00]

Bradley making sense again. He's the only one. Algiery is a waste of space, such dumb comments (he said last week Fury is one of the greatest heavyweights ever!! What an idiot).

[JuniorTorres720]

It was awesome to see Usyk escaping Fury’s attempts of using his height and weight to bully him. Usyk is too smart for that. Once Fury couldn’t lean into Usyk to tire him out, that’s when we knew who the better fighter is.

[theface07]

Why is it a lot of kids!? everyone should be having a similar amount of kids assuming they can afford them.

More people are becoming old farts then they are being born, so who's going to support them when most women aren't even having kids until they're 30+ (geriatric pregnancy) and only having one or two if that...

"she probably doesn't have much of say" as opposed to Tyson who would have literally no say if she decided to not have anymore or choose to abort kids...

I totally disagree with everything you said. Everyone should be having a similar amount of kids assuming they can afford them? Justify that to me. We have a population crisis, the world is being damaged more everyday because of a grotesque excess of the human population. There's absolutely no way you can justify any family nowadays having 8 kids. That is a totally ridiculous notion.
As for your second "point", it's up to a couple when they decide to have kids. If they choose to have kids when they're 30+ that absolutely doesn't mean they can't take care of or support them. On the other hand, most people by that point would be more mature and financially stable than when they're in their twenties. On top of that, if you're 35 when you have a child, you will be 55 when they're 20. If you are a reasonably healthy human being, that's not too old an age to take care of kids and on top of that, once you're 18 you're an adult and should have enough responsibility to take care of yourself.
Tyson is the self described king of the family, a narcissistic egomaniac with mental health issues who makes millions upon millions of dollars. You would have to be incredibly naive to think that Paris wouldn't do absolutely everything in her power to make Tyson happy so he doesn't go off the rails again.

[Boro]

I totally disagree with everything you said. Everyone should be having a similar amount of kids assuming they can afford them? Justify that to me. We have a population crisis, the world is being damaged more everyday because of a grotesque excess of the human population. There's absolutely no way you can justify any family nowadays having 8 kids. That is a totally ridiculous notion.
As for your second "point", it's up to a couple when they decide to have kids. If they choose to have kids when they're 30+ that absolutely doesn't mean they can't take care of or support them. On the other hand, most people by that point would be more mature and financially stable than when they're in their twenties. On top of that, if you're 35 when you have a child, you will be 55 when they're 20. If you are a reasonably healthy human being, that's not too old an age to take care of kids and on top of that, once you're 18 you're an adult and should have enough responsibility to take care of yourself.
Tyson is the self described king of the family, a narcissistic egomaniac with mental health issues who makes millions upon millions of dollars. You would have to be incredibly naive to think that Paris wouldn't do absolutely everything in her power to make Tyson happy so he doesn't go off the rails again.

I literally did justify it, we're having an epidemic of elderly outweighing newborns like I said no one is going to be able to support the elderly.

They're already the biggest welfare cost in innumerable countries, the best we can hope for is people coming back to religion and in turn breeding like mormons or AI fulfilling roles that would help sustain human existence or let the elderly die out instead of treating them to relieve the burden on society

If it wasn't for illegal and legal migration everywhere most countries would be facing a Korea level crisis...

It's not about them being able to take care of a child, it's simply most of their eggs have dried up at that point, they're various complications of later births including birth defects/learning difficulties, maternal mortality rates go up precipitously (which has been happening YoY for years now) and the costs associated with IVF, freezing your eggs and the mental toll it has on women who end up childless because they were told they can put off arguably the most important and potentially fulfilling aspect of being a woman....

It's not up to a couple it's up to the woman, how delusional are you, that you actually believe a man has any say if a woman keeps or aborts a baby, men have literally no reproductive rights anywhere in the west.

Tyson should be the "king of the family" it's suppose to be a religious family, in what world do said women not conform/submit to their husband!?

[jackblack008]

The fight was super competitive with both winning 6 rounds each. KD made the difference. But that was hell of a KD. May be a 10-7 ...

[Zelda]

I thought Fury did quite well in the middle rounds and at one point looked like he was winning.

So, no he is not finished goods and if he can change his tactics for the rematch, stop the showboating, and have a more serious corner...he has also the attributes to win. Usyk can and has been hit before so if Fury lands the big clean shot fights, he can capitalize on that and fight more aggressively rather than going on the back foot. Both fighters would know their strengths and weaknesses so it depends on who can prepare and execute better.