Comments Thread For: Is Fury 'Damaged Goods' For the Usyk Rematch?

[Raceace]

Every fighter comes to the stage where they meet someone who's better than them. Fury is a good fighter but has met someone who better. Usyk will win again and this time he'll stop fury I think. No matter how good you are your punch resistant goes as it clearly showed in that fight. Why carry on when you've achieved everything in boxing and with 8 kids go and enjoy your life. Fury should retire as there's no shame in that, but he's a fighter and will continue regardless what anyone tells him.

[PRINCEKOOL]

No, Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk is actially Fury's 3rd best performance ever skill for skill 'In terms of the quality of action Fury produced within his performance'.

Throughout Tyson Fury's career, you can only really rate Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Kiltschko and Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder II 'As more impressive performances skill for skill'.

Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury III, was a great competitive match up, the passion and brutality 'But skill for skill it was not a high level fight. Both fighters were fatigued, all over the place and producing unforced errors from round 2 onwards'.

When Tyson Fury fought Oleksandr Uysk on May 18th, he was fighting a vastly more superior pure boxer skill for skill than Deontay Wilder 'All those technical mistakes, Fury was making vs Wilder? Fury could not produce against Uysk at the same frequency, if he was to win the fight'.

For Tyson Fury to make the fight competitive vs Oleksandr Uysk over the distance, for me? This proves that it was on pure performance his 3rd best fight ever.

It was similar with Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'Although Joshua statistically has many top level wins, and he is the most proven active Heavyweight at World and Elite. Joshua vs Uysk I & II, are still great performances'.

Note: Oleksandr Uysk is a Olympic Champion, former Cruiserweight Champion and Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion. When fighters compete against him, and make those fights competitive 'This does not expose or disprove their abilities, it only confirms and proves that they are also great fighters'.

Nobody here can question Anthony Joshua's boxing skills 'Before Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk, I regarded Anthony Joshua as the 3rd most proven and component pure boxer skill for skill active within the Heavyweight Division. Now there is a debate after Fury vs Uysk, that Joshua is potentially ranked number 2 in the division. Because now we have a direct comparison between Joshua and Fury, against a common opponent 'Were Tyson Fury and his hardcore fans cannot make any excuses for Fury'.

The main point I am trying to make is? I will use a analogy to hit the point home.

In the 1996 Atlanta Olympic's, Michael Johnson won the 200m Olympic Final 'In a then World record of 19.32 seconds. Destroying the former World record of 19.66 seconds, by 34 one hundredths of a second. The mark of 19.66 seconds, was the record also held by Michael Johnson, a time he set in the Olympic trials earlier that year'.

Before Michael Johnson broke the 200m World Record in 1996, the fastest Track and Field Athlete ever over the distance of 200m 'Was the Italian Pietro Mennea, he set the World record of 19.72 in 1979'

Back to Michael Johnson, and the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Michael Johnson won the 200m Olympic title, in a time of 19.32 seconds. In 2nd place was Frankie Fredricks, who? Was the only Sprinter to of beaten Michael Johnson that year coming into the Olympics, and one of the very few sprinter's EVER to beat Michael Johnson over the 200m distance in any race during is career.

To put things into perspective, you? Will find very little video footage of Michael Johnson being beaten over 200m 'In a straight race. Johnson for the best part of a decade was only really beaten a few times by Fredricks, and then in the 1992 Olympic's due to illness'.

Frankie Fredricks in the 1996 Olympic final won the silver medal in a time of 19.68 seconds 'Fredricks in the same race as Johnson, broke Pietro Mennea's former World record of 19.72 seconds. The former Olympic record of 19.73 seconds, was also broken. Frankie Fredricks became the second fastest athlete ever over the 200m distance behind Michael Johnson in the 1996 Olympic Final'.

Frankie Fredricks did not win the Olympic title in 1996 200m final 'But objectively that race, is one of Frankie Fredricks best ever performances. It was not just the time set by Fredrick's, it was also the field he was competing against'.

In 3rd place winning the Olympic Bronze Medal was Ato Boldon 'Boldon ran 19.77 seconds. At the time Ato Boldon became the fastest ever athlete from the Caribbean in history over the 200m distance. Ato Boldon would hold this title, for a further 12 years. Boldon was only surpassed as the fastest ever 200m sprinter from the Caribbean by Usain Bolt in 2008'.

When Tyson Fury fought Oleksandr Uysk, it is similar to when Frankie Fredricks came up against Michael Johnson 'Both athletes in their respective sports, came up against all-time great athletes and unprecedent talents. Tyson Fury was not competing against Derek Chisora, Deontay Wilder or Steve USS Cunningham or whoever hardcore Fury fans believe are Fury's best opponents he has ever fought since Wladimir Kiltschko'.

Tyson Fury entered into a completely different stratosphere of performance when he signed the contract to fight Oleksandr Uysk on May 18th 2024 'Tyson Fury potentially had not been anywhere near this level of performance and stratosphere for almost 9 years'.

Since Tyson Fury fought Wladimir Kiltschko in 2015 'There is definitive debate that every single version of Fury, that we have ever seen inside the ring since that fight. Wilder I, WIlder II, Whyte, Chisora III. All of those versions of Tyson Fury would of been beaten by Oleksandr Uysk on May 18th, certain versions of Fury would of severely beaten'.

Therefor if we analyse Tyson Fury's performance vs Oleksandr Uysk from a pure competitive perspective 'It has to be one of his best performances ever. Tyson Fury may not of won the fight, but there is no way a out of condition Tyson Fury makes a fight competitive vs Oleksandr Uysk on May 18th'.

Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk is a return to form for Tyson Fury 'The challenge for Fury now, is whether he can keep this up and build on that performance for his rematch' etc.

[_Rexy_]

If Fury did not catch that one shot, he wins the fight. And he caught it because he was sitting on the ropes. If he stays in the middle and keeps distance, he wins. Simple as that.

It’s not “simple as that” he was sitting against the ropes because his fat ass was tired. And he was tired BEFORE getting his nose broken the round before.

[_Rexy_]

So many of Fury's knockdowns are his own damn fault for leaving his hands too low. It works at times, but he gets caught sleeping and it's the price he has to pay.

It takes a lot of energy to hold your arm out using that “high guard” he likes to employ. Usyk spent the first 3 rounds feinting that and hitting the body so fury was basically doing side laterals for the first three rounds in anticipation.

think of when you were a kid holding your hand up in class, eventually your arm gets exhausted and you don’t care aviut your question

[Joe Beamish]

I don’t think Fury is damaged goods. I think he simply met a fighter whose style will always give him problems.

Styles make fights. Usyk > Fury.

[Pac=Duran]

He has been for a while, going back to Wilder III. What HW champion have we seen lately who routinely takes such heavy-ass knockdowns almost every fight? Even going back to his very first KDs against Pajkic and Cunningham – those weren't off-balance flash KDs; they damn near finished him. Then obviously the 4 from Wilder, Ngannou, and now Usyk – again none of them flash.

Hopefully they're giving him CT scans because he's taken a lot of brain-scrambling shots in the past 12yrs. He'll need all his faculties to bring up 8 kids in retirement, and that's when we know he starts going loopy.

Yeah he's liable to get caught clean multiple times in a fight ans Usyk can find those extra gears needed to pour it on and cause huge damage

[Pac=Duran]

It’s not “simple as that” he was sitting against the ropes because his fat ass was tired. And he was tired BEFORE getting his nose broken the round before.

Fury was not in good shape. Look at the state of him. He is not a big man really. He's skinny fat at 260 lbs. Could lose 20 lbs and still look like ****.

His conditioning has been awful for most of his fights. Why hasnt he been in thr weight room?

Such a waste of talent

[_Rexy_]

Fury was not in good shape. Look at the state of him. He is not a big man really. He's skinny fat at 260 lbs. Could lose 20 lbs and still look like ****.

His conditioning has been awful for most of his fights. Why hasnt he been in thr weight room?

Such a waste of talent

I mentioned that at the weigh in too. The Wilder 2 fight he was fat but you could tell he’d been hitting weights. Since then he’s skinny fat looking like a melted candle.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Fury still beats everybody else in division.

[The D3vil]

I wonder if Oliver mcall, or ray Mercer had great recuperating abilities? They had great chins.

Hey Oliver McCall was never stopped by anybody.

The Atomic Bull was no JOKE

And Mercer took Lewis AND Holyfield to HELL in consecutive fights where he could've won either fight.

They had to have some recuperating abilities to do that.