Fury gets KO'd in the rematch

[dan-b]

The appealing story some will tell themselves is that Fury will be better prepared, in "better shape" and will bring improved tactics to the Usyk rematch. Even under the optimal scenario where Fury lives like a monk for the next 7 months (which he won't) it won't solve his fundamental lack of athleticism.

Doing a few additional shuttle runs and longer morning runs isn't going to solve the problem. He was almost KO'd due to physical exhaustion and that was after doing nothing for the first three rounds. If he does what's required to win the first three rounds this time (or at least attempts to) he will simply tire sooner and get knocked out.

He has nothing new to show Usyk, the KO will come between rounds 7 and 9.

[sunny31]

I know many of you make outlandish statements for attention, or to suit your agenda.

I think the rematch depends on Fury's level of decline and possibly Usky as well, who hasnt shown any yet but it can come at his age in any fight. If they are both the same fighters, I think its another close fight, but historically the smaller fighter has more difficulty in the rematch. Fury generally fights better in rematches, you would be brave man to bet against him.

The Fury's come across as outlandish but behind closed doors there are some very astute and knowledgable boxing people in Fury's team.

Between the two, he is the one who has the possibilities to make more adjustments, Usyk's winning fight is to pressure him and outhustle him, in rounds 3-6 Fury was able to create room for himself and that was not a good place for Usyk to be.

Fury went through a crisis of energy level between roumds 8-9. This is likely when his body was switching to a fat burn cycle, this is common in fights and you can physically see it in distance fights, some fighters are better at masking it then others. He got caught during this phase. Fair play to Usyk, as he caused this, but it will be hard on him physically and mentally to go through that again against a bigger man. One of Furys adjustments is better fight pacing, even down to not sprinting to the ring during his ring walk..

You say he barely did anything for the first 3 roumds, but moving as much as he did and the concentration is still tiring.

I think there are a lot of false assumptions in your OP, if Fury still has it physically, he will come back in better prepared with adjustments, they both will. I see another close fight, i wont pick my winner until closer to the time of the fight.

I dont think Usyk is going to just come in and steam roll him like you think, round 12 was an important round for Fury to show he still had fight in him and it set the stage for the rematch

[Gladiator18]

Usyk is very intelligent, he will make adjustments. Furys in trouble

[dannnnn]

He was almost KO'd due to physical exhaustion and that was after doing nothing for the first three rounds. If he does what's required to win the first three rounds this time (or at least attempts to) he will simply tire sooner and get knocked out.

Some people are easily fooled and gave Fury at least one of the first three rounds based seemingly on showboating and little else. He landed very little of note whilst Usyk got right down to business landing jabs and stabbing left hands to the body as well as a few upstairs. It was pretty clear to me who was winning those rounds but evidently not to everyone, the judges included. I even remember Barry Jones on commentary praising Fury for throwing a "beautiful double jab" as Fury innocuously jabbed Usyk's gloves with a non-scoring blow.

My point is, Fury probably thinks he's only got to do a tiny bit better and he'll get the decision next time - and he's probably right. If not for the knockdown it would officially have been a draw. I had it 116-111 Usyk, eight rounds to four, so I thought it was pretty clear even without the knockdown. It reminds me of the situation with Canelo-Bivol (though to a lesser degree) whereby people think Canelo would be silly to push for a rematch because it was so one-sided, but in actuality the scorecards were all 115-113, so in Canelo's mind he knows he only feasibly has to win one more round than last time to change the result. I had that one 9-3 Bivol btw.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I can’t see it. Fury is a very difficult guy to stop, has amazing powers of recovery and also tremendous heart.

I can definitely see Usyk beating him by decision again would be very surprised if he stopped him.

[Hous]

Usyk already beat the best Fury we have seen in years. Usyk wins again, possibly by stoppage.

[QueensburyRules]

The appealing story some will tell themselves is that Fury will be better prepared, in "better shape" and will bring improved tactics to the Usyk rematch. Even under the optimal scenario where Fury lives like a monk for the next 7 months (which he won't) it won't solve his fundamental lack of athleticism.

Doing a few additional shuttle runs and longer morning runs isn't going to solve the problem. He was almost KO'd due to physical exhaustion and that was after doing nothing for the first three rounds. If he does what's required to win the first three rounds this time (or at least attempts to) he will simply tire sooner and get knocked out.

He has nothing new to show Usyk, the KO will come between rounds 7 and 9.

- - Blubber gonna be a jerk like he been all his life and retire just before the fight to leave everyone hanging for the umpteenth time in he career.

[billeau2]

The appealing story some will tell themselves is that Fury will be better prepared, in "better shape" and will bring improved tactics to the Usyk rematch. Even under the optimal scenario where Fury lives like a monk for the next 7 months (which he won't) it won't solve his fundamental lack of athleticism.

Doing a few additional shuttle runs and longer morning runs isn't going to solve the problem. He was almost KO'd due to physical exhaustion and that was after doing nothing for the first three rounds. If he does what's required to win the first three rounds this time (or at least attempts to) he will simply tire sooner and get knocked out.

He has nothing new to show Usyk, the KO will come between rounds 7 and 9.

Bold prediction! I have to see things closer to the fight to make mine and... I actually think this one is callable. Here is what I saw: I think both guys had their moments... objectively. Usyk's success looked spectacular but... Fury could have just taken the count and most of what was seen as dominant would be missing. meanwhile fury had his rounds where you could see Usyk was really having troubles.

This leaves us with the rest of the fight... So the first 3 rounds or so, Nobody really did much, Usyk was, as you say, more successful those rounds. Then we have Fury's success, and then Usyk's success. Leaving the final 4 rounds or so. I am going to watch those rounds again because they could potentially determine how "round 13" starts the next fight. At the time, as someone who does not score fights, I had the impression Usyk looked better, but not dominant.

For the rematch Tyson knows what was effective... The stuff I rail on here about lol! keeping Usyk away, feinting, hitting to any targets to keep usyk on the perimeter... Usyk also knows what was effective: use angles, aggression and strength (something else I have maintained that people do not see with Usyk! lol). Usyk is strong! He can push Tyson around, much as grandpa could rock a big bald 3oo pound baby with a diaper like Tyson looked during that fateful round.

Both men know thy opponent... Everything is on the table this fight... Look for Tyson to at least try to hit Usyk hardr in stretches... Look for Usyk to try to assert himself sooner. Both men have been emboldened.

[GhostofDempsey]

I’ve said it before, his best days are well behind him. Big guys like Fury can’t take the wear and tear and trauma to their knees, hips, joints, etc. he is not nearly as mobile as he was a few years ago and his reflexes have finished. He has been in wars and has taken a lot of big punches to the head. I don’t see him doing any better in a rematch.

[Willow The Wisp]

I know many of you make outlandish statements for attention, or to suit your agenda.

I think the rematch depends on Fury's level of decline and possibly Usky as well, who hasnt shown any yet but it can come at his age in any fight. If they are both the same fighters, I think its another close fight, but historically the smaller fighter has more difficulty in the rematch. Fury generally fights better in rematches, you would be brave man to bet against him.

The Fury's come across as outlandish but behind closed doors there are some very astute and knowledgable boxing people in Fury's team.

Between the two, he is the one who has the possibilities to make more adjustments, Usyk's winning fight is to pressure him and outhustle him, in rounds 3-6 Fury was able to create room for himself and that was not a good place for Usyk to be.

Fury went through a crisis of energy level between roumds 8-9. This is likely when his body was switching to a fat burn cycle, this is common in fights and you can physically see it in distance fights, some fighters are better at masking it then others. He got caught during this phase. Fair play to Usyk, as he caused this, but it will be hard on him physically and mentally to go through that again against a bigger man. One of Furys adjustments is better fight pacing, even down to not sprinting to the ring during his ring walk..

You say he barely did anything for the first 3 roumds, but moving as much as he did and the concentration is still tiring.

I think there are a lot of false assumptions in your OP, if Fury still has it physically, he will come back in better prepared with adjustments, they both will. I see another close fight, i wont pick my winner until closer to the time of the fight.

I dont think Usyk is going to just come in and steam roll him like you think, round 12 was an important round for Fury to show he still had fight in him and it set the stage for the rematch

Excellent post, proper perspective.