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  • billeau2
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    #111
    Originally posted by kiaba360
    A lot can go wrong in 7 months, especially with Fury involved. Is the IBF really going to allow Usyk to hold the title until then?
    what do you mean? what could possibly go wrong in half a year Plus 1? All we have to do is keep the Gypsy King away from tainted Boar meat, *******, sparring sessions, walking while chewing gum.... oh wait a minute...

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    • Nash out
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      #112
      Originally posted by billeau2

      Well Nash... Your right but that applies to like 90% or so of trainers. When Mike Tyson said :Eve-wy-won has a plan until they get punched in the face."
      It does, but I think replacing those three in the corner, Sugar, Andy Lee, and the Legend in his own mind Big John Fury, with Peter Fury, and you have a better corner.

      People forget that Peter Fury turned Tyson Fury from a guy who was having wars with and trouble with average fighters, to someone who beat Wlad in his own backyard.

      I also think Peter Fury knew how to have Tyson better prepared mentally, and keeping hangers on away from him.

      When you hear Peter talk, its clear that he knows his ****. Shame what happened there all cos of that bollocks of Peter and Hughie talking to David Haye. Nash out

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        #113
        Originally posted by vitali1999
        Remember when he drew with wilder, said he couldn't trust the judges so knocked him out the rematches? Look for Fury to ko Ustiff this time.
        Didn't you predict this same outcome in the first fight

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          #114
          Originally posted by greeneye99

          Didn't you predict this same outcome in the first fight
          Wow, 'Ustiff', that's a new one to me

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            #115
            This is great news. First fight was fantastic. This guys should go for a trilogy, if Fury can win a rematch.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Nash out

              It does, but I think replacing those three in the corner, Sugar, Andy Lee, and the Legend in his own mind Big John Fury, with Peter Fury, and you have a better corner.

              People forget that Peter Fury turned Tyson Fury from a guy who was having wars with and trouble with average fighters, to someone who beat Wlad in his own backyard.

              I also think Peter Fury knew how to have Tyson better prepared mentally, and keeping hangers on away from him.

              When you hear Peter talk, its clear that he knows his ****. Shame what happened there all cos of that bollocks of Peter and Hughie talking to David Haye. Nash out
              I agree. John is too centered around emotional affect, including his own. Peter was, much like Roger Mayweather was to Floyd, smart, technically savy, and could get Fury focused. No fighter can focus on a corner with a trifecta including Big John. Fury is a very coachable fighter. I think when he is focused he can do a lot better.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Boxviewer

                The only challenging rematch Fury has had was vs a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder. He ran from the Wlad rematch. So, what are talking about?

                If anyone is going to get his ass whooped it's going to be Fury, again. Usyk simply has more tricks, a better engine and better legs than him.
                what about John McDermott? A very large proportion of people are of the opinion that he lost the first fight where for the most part he was boxing on the outside unsuccessfully. In the rematch he brought the fight to McDermott, especially on the inside and ended the fight conclusively with a KO. That's now 3 different fights where he's come back, made the adjustment and got the KO. He already hurt Usyk in the first fight. Just because Usyk is a great fighter it doesn't make him immune from getting KO'd.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Boxviewer

                  The only challenging rematch Fury has had was vs a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder. He ran from the Wlad rematch. So, what are talking about?

                  If anyone is going to get his ass whooped it's going to be Fury, again. Usyk simply has more tricks, a better engine and better legs than him.
                  You're also being harsh on wilder there as well. There's more to wilder that just the 1,2... He's incredibly dangerous because he's very athletic and can close the distance in an instance to get the right hand off as he proved against people like Ortiz, Stiverne and Breazeale. with wilder you'd have to be switched on constantly - as he says he only needs to be perfect for 1 second...

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by billeau2

                    No probably not. I mean I understand he thinks he won, but he should have maintained that opinion for a later date.
                    100% brother, the man's the epitome of delusional. I look forward to seeing adjustments from either man in the fight however usyk should be victorious especially knowing he can hurt tyson badly now. I expect more front foot pressure and setting traps from round 1 in the aim of disguising the overhand left that hurt him in fight 1

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Gideon lock

                      100% brother, the man's the epitome of delusional. I look forward to seeing adjustments from either man in the fight however usyk should be victorious especially knowing he can hurt tyson badly now. I expect more front foot pressure and setting traps from round 1 in the aim of disguising the overhand left that hurt him in fight 1
                      Yeah it's a big deal that he could get to Fury. Fury gives up too much real estate. Some of these fighters today especially, I'm thinking fighters like Caleb plant for example, they just move too much. Efficiency goes out the window. You can only do this so long against and effective and aggressive opponent.

                      Fury has to use an old Tai chi axiom; move when your opponent moves, punch when your opponent punches. Given Tyson's reach and size if he stood his ground and did the above he would be much more of a problem.

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