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  • Originally posted by Nash out View Post

    I do too. I think Sugar Hill, although 100 times better than John 'Use the jab we're fighting men' Fury, he is overrated, I believe he has limitations in his tactical setup, plan B, and advice in between rounds. I think Sugar is an on top Coach, he doesn't know how to turn a fight when things start going wrong. Nash out
    Well Nash... Your right but that applies to like 90% or so of trainers. When Mike Tyson said :Eve-wy-won has a plan until they get punched in the face."
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    • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
      A lot can go wrong in 7 months, especially with Fury involved. Is the IBF really going to allow Usyk to hold the title until then?
      what do you mean? what could possibly go wrong in half a year Plus 1? All we have to do is keep the Gypsy King away from tainted Boar meat, *******, sparring sessions, walking while chewing gum.... oh wait a minute...

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      • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

        Well Nash... Your right but that applies to like 90% or so of trainers. When Mike Tyson said :Eve-wy-won has a plan until they get punched in the face."
        It does, but I think replacing those three in the corner, Sugar, Andy Lee, and the Legend in his own mind Big John Fury, with Peter Fury, and you have a better corner.

        People forget that Peter Fury turned Tyson Fury from a guy who was having wars with and trouble with average fighters, to someone who beat Wlad in his own backyard.

        I also think Peter Fury knew how to have Tyson better prepared mentally, and keeping hangers on away from him.

        When you hear Peter talk, its clear that he knows his ****. Shame what happened there all cos of that bollocks of Peter and Hughie talking to David Haye. Nash out
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        • Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
          Remember when he drew with wilder, said he couldn't trust the judges so knocked him out the rematches? Look for Fury to ko Ustiff this time.
          Didn't you predict this same outcome in the first fight

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          • Originally posted by greeneye99 View Post

            Didn't you predict this same outcome in the first fight
            Wow, 'Ustiff', that's a new one to me
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            • This is great news. First fight was fantastic. This guys should go for a trilogy, if Fury can win a rematch.

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              • Originally posted by Nash out View Post

                It does, but I think replacing those three in the corner, Sugar, Andy Lee, and the Legend in his own mind Big John Fury, with Peter Fury, and you have a better corner.

                People forget that Peter Fury turned Tyson Fury from a guy who was having wars with and trouble with average fighters, to someone who beat Wlad in his own backyard.

                I also think Peter Fury knew how to have Tyson better prepared mentally, and keeping hangers on away from him.

                When you hear Peter talk, its clear that he knows his ****. Shame what happened there all cos of that bollocks of Peter and Hughie talking to David Haye. Nash out
                I agree. John is too centered around emotional affect, including his own. Peter was, much like Roger Mayweather was to Floyd, smart, technically savy, and could get Fury focused. No fighter can focus on a corner with a trifecta including Big John. Fury is a very coachable fighter. I think when he is focused he can do a lot better.
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                • Originally posted by Boxviewer View Post

                  The only challenging rematch Fury has had was vs a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder. He ran from the Wlad rematch. So, what are talking about?

                  If anyone is going to get his ass whooped it's going to be Fury, again. Usyk simply has more tricks, a better engine and better legs than him.
                  what about John McDermott? A very large proportion of people are of the opinion that he lost the first fight where for the most part he was boxing on the outside unsuccessfully. In the rematch he brought the fight to McDermott, especially on the inside and ended the fight conclusively with a KO. That's now 3 different fights where he's come back, made the adjustment and got the KO. He already hurt Usyk in the first fight. Just because Usyk is a great fighter it doesn't make him immune from getting KO'd.

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                  • Originally posted by Boxviewer View Post

                    The only challenging rematch Fury has had was vs a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder. He ran from the Wlad rematch. So, what are talking about?

                    If anyone is going to get his ass whooped it's going to be Fury, again. Usyk simply has more tricks, a better engine and better legs than him.
                    You're also being harsh on wilder there as well. There's more to wilder that just the 1,2... He's incredibly dangerous because he's very athletic and can close the distance in an instance to get the right hand off as he proved against people like Ortiz, Stiverne and Breazeale. with wilder you'd have to be switched on constantly - as he says he only needs to be perfect for 1 second...
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                    • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                      No probably not. I mean I understand he thinks he won, but he should have maintained that opinion for a later date.
                      100% brother, the man's the epitome of delusional. I look forward to seeing adjustments from either man in the fight however usyk should be victorious especially knowing he can hurt tyson badly now. I expect more front foot pressure and setting traps from round 1 in the aim of disguising the overhand left that hurt him in fight 1
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