Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez Set To Relinquish IBF Title, No Longer Undisputed Champion

[ShoulderRoll]

Any "rules" that make Scull the #1 guy are counterproductive to the integrity of the sport.

Plenty of quality boxers are ranked by the IBF. At 168 Mbilli is ranked. Hes better & more proven than Scull. If anyone is #1 there it should be him. Munguia is ranked hes better & more proven than Scull. There are a few others I'd consider 100% better & more proven than Scull. And many I'd consider unknowns or untested as much as Scull who may or may not be better &/or more proven than Scull.

I'm not saying the IBF aren't the lesser corrupt belt group cuz they probably are, but they are still corrupt.

Has Mbilli beaten other IBF-ranked fighters to earn the mando spot? That’s how their system works.

Mbilli is co-promoted by Top Rank now so if corruption was involved surely the IBF would benefit more by having him as the mandatory instead, since he is likely to have bigger purses for his fights that they can take a cut of. Rather than the purses of the unknown William Scull.

[greeneye99]

I bash Canelo a lot and he deserves it - but this is the right move and respect to him for it.

Canelo could say "He's my mandatory, cry to the IBF not to me" and give the fans another Yildirim-type farce.

The Berlanga fight sucks but Berlanga's record looks like Oscar De La Hoya's next to Will Skulls.

Buddy you don't bash Canelo a lot
Use your own advice.....
Canelo could say '"David Benavidez is my Mandatory" I should fight him
Why didn't he drop the WBC belt like he's willing to drop IBF Belt
Canelo Just avoided the Benavidez situation

[Eff Pandas]

Has Mbilli beaten other IBF-ranked fighters to earn the mando spot? That’s how their system works.

Again my #1 point is ANY system that leads to Scull being #1 for beating other low level & undeserving of a top 15 ranking opps is corrupted & counterproductive to the integrity of the sport.

[famicommander]

Has Mbilli beaten other IBF-ranked fighters to earn the mando spot? That’s how their system works.

Mbilli is co-promoted by Top Rank now so if corruption was involved surely the IBF would benefit more by having him as the mandatory instead, since he is likely to have bigger purses for his fights that they can take a cut of. Rather than the purses of the unknown William Scull.

The IBF shouldn't just let any bum fight for a mandatory position if there aren't any good fighters actually vying for it. Leave the mandatory position empty until a worthy fighter earns it. Leave the championship vacant if need be, as well.

[ShoulderRoll]

Again my #1 point is ANY system that leads to Scull being #1 for beating other low level & undeserving of a top 15 ranking opps is corrupted & counterproductive to the integrity of the sport.

How is it corrupted, though? The IBF can only rank the fighters that agree to abide by the rules and who don’t turn down ordered eliminators.

[famicommander]

How is it corrupted, though? The IBF can only rank the fighters that agree to abide by the rules and who don’t turn down ordered eliminators.

Then leave the top ranking spots vacant and don't sanction eliminators if the good fighters don't want to fight for their titles.

The point of a championship should be to determine who the best fighter is, not to simply ensure a vacancy is filled and sanctioning fees keep rolling in. If nobody is deserving of a mandatory challenge, don't declare a mandatory challenger. Simple.

[ShoulderRoll]

Then leave the top ranking spots vacant and don't sanction eliminators if the good fighters don't want to fight for their titles.

The point of a championship should be to determine who the best fighter is, not to simply ensure a vacancy is filled and sanctioning fees keep rolling in. If nobody is deserving of a mandatory challenge, don't declare a mandatory challenger. Simple.

Bob Arum and company aren’t ever going to want to their boxers to fight for that title for the most part, when they can go the corrupt WBO route instead.

So how about we get rid of all the alphabet orgs except one, and make them have the strict and transparent rulebook that the IBF does?

[Eff Pandas]

How is it corrupted, though? The IBF can only rank the fighters that agree to abide by the rules and who don’t turn down ordered eliminators.

Like I said Scull is ahead of Mbilli for the easiest answer, but I could give 100 more examples if I had the patience. And where is the contract ppl are signing to agree to all IBF rules to get ranked? I've never heard of such a thing.

Of the belt groups the WBC probably has the closest thing to the indie rankings. The IBF probably has the worst. I could give a fook if they got "rules" that allow their awful rankings.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Buddy you don't bash Canelo a lot
Use your own advice.....
Canelo could say '"David Benavidez is my Mandatory" I should fight him
Why didn't he drop the WBC belt like he's willing to drop IBF Belt
Canelo Just avoided the Benavidez situation

WBC doesn't have the balls to order that mandatory though...

[damned1974]

I agree that Canelo should dump the belt. I would go a step further and say that he should dump ALL his belts. He is at the level where belts simply don't matter anymore. His economic clout is what will attract his opponents, not his titles. So let the next generation of guys fight for them, and make names for themselves.

100% agree. Dump all the belts and give other guys a chance for a fight once they build up their profile. To me, Benevidez has done just enough to warrant a fight-not a lot, but enough compared to anyone else around the weight class.