Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez Set To Relinquish IBF Title, No Longer Undisputed Champion

[Eff Pandas]

it's not corruption.

You gotta be delusional if you think these belt groups aren't corrupt. Looking at the rankings alone should prove that. Seeing how they treat the bigger draws with big promoters over the lesser draws with minor promoters should prove that.

The IBF is more no bs about mandos than other groups but there rankings do nothing to suggest there isn't corruption &/or some quid pro quo going on.

A lot of it today seems to be about these minor belts more guys than ever have & which Scull himself won too. That 3% of ones purse for some minor belt feels like a less corrupt looking way to climb the rankings, but far too often its these completely random outta nowhere guys fighting for these belts which is highly suspect to me.

[drablj]

You gotta be delusional if you think these belt groups aren't corrupt. Looking at the rankings alone should prove that. Seeing how they treat the bigger draws with big promoters over the lesser draws with minor promoters should prove that.

The IBF is more no bs about mandos than other groups but there rankings do nothing to suggest there isn't corruption &/or some quid pro quo going on.

A lot of it today seems to be about these minor belts more guys than ever have & which Scull himself won too. That 3% of ones purse for some minor belt feels like a less corrupt looking way to climb the rankings, but far too often its these completely random outta nowhere guys fighting for these belts which is highly suspect to me.

corruption is when wba don't call their mandatory for 3 years and then out of nowhere appoint another mandatory instead (morrell and berlanga). it's also corruption when bodies move boxers up and down many places for no logical reason. it's not corruption when some people don't want to fight and some want.

i don't understand people on this forum. it sounds like you guys don't want rankings and enforced mandatories to exist. well boxing would be UNBEARABLE to follow without those. i said boxing, not boxers. fanboys would watch it anyways. they don't follow boxing.

[ShoulderRoll]

The IBF is more no bs about mandos than other groups but there rankings do nothing to suggest there isn't corruption &/or some quid pro quo going on.

What the IBF rankings suggest is that people like Bob Arum would rather go the WBO route than be forced to abide by hard and fast rules that are completely transparent.

[Toprope]

How do these bodies not know which mandatory is due? Just playing dumb? There’s 4 bodies, it shouldn’t be that hard to keep track of who is up next.

There is no order or up next. Canelo fought Ryder 2023 and Mungia 2024, both WBO mandatories. Enough said for me.

[Teetotaler83]

I bash Canelo a lot and he deserves it - but this is the right move and respect to him for it.

Canelo could say "He's my mandatory, cry to the IBF not to me" and give the fans another Yildirim-type farce.

The Berlanga fight sucks but Berlanga's record looks like Oscar De La Hoya's next to Will Skulls.

This Is why your a shlt poster. Use common sense, he can't fight this mandatory cause everyone will talk shlt about he's not fighting his other mandatory in benavidez. Fvkcing idiot. Fighting the lesser of two bums isn't something to be applauded either dumbass

[Teetotaler83]

I do not think Clenebutol is going to fight nobodies at this point but he is also not gonna fight killers. I believe he will fight Crawford next or even go up and fight Usyk

You're trolling right?

[Eff Pandas]

What the IBF rankings suggest is that people like Bob Arum would rather go the WBO route than be forced to abide by hard and fast rules that are completely transparent.

Idk that any belt group has hard, fast & transparent rules. That big name boxer 3% lure is very enticing to them all. The IBF is more fook around & find out with mandos then any belt group still tho.

[Eff Pandas]

corruption is when wba don't call their mandatory for 3 years and then out of nowhere appoint another mandatory instead (morrell and berlanga). it's also corruption when bodies move boxers up and down many places for no logical reason. it's not corruption when some people don't want to fight and some want.

i don't understand people on this forum. it sounds like you guys don't want rankings and enforced mandatories to exist. well boxing would be UNBEARABLE to follow without those. i said boxing, not boxers. fanboys would watch it anyways. they don't follow boxing.

I'd love a world belt ranking, that made sense. I'd love a world belt mando, that mase sense. No belt group offers that.

In no universe should William Scull be top ten let alone a #1 mando. And there are numerous other examples, Michael Eifert, Edgar Berlanga, Diego Pacheco, Arnold Barboza, Ruben Villa among many others that no sane person would consider the #1 contender at their weight.

Things either make sense or they don't. And they don't. And there is surely a reason they don't & I tend to think corruption is the most likely reason. I expect at some point this will be something proven like past corruption in boxing got uncovered.

The biggest problem boxing has outside the ring is almost nothing makes sense. 4 "world rankings". Up to 4 belt holders per division. Randomly called mandos. None of the belt group rankings make any damn sense to what ppl see, skill & resume-wise. These groups aren't helping, they are hurting the sport is my bottom line.

[ShoulderRoll]

I'd love a world belt ranking, that made sense. I'd love a world belt mando, that mase sense. No belt group offers that.

In no universe should William Scull be top ten let alone a #1 mando. And there are numerous other examples, Michael Eifert, Edgar Berlanga, Diego Pacheco, Arnold Barboza, Ruben Villa among many others that no sane person would consider the #1 contender at their weight.

Things either make sense or they don't. And they don't. And there is surely a reason they don't & I tend to think corruption is the most likely reason. I expect at some point this will be something proven like past corruption in boxing got uncovered.

The biggest problem boxing has outside the ring is almost nothing makes sense. 4 "world rankings". Up to 4 belt holders per division. Randomly called mandos. None of the belt group rankings make any damn sense to what ppl see, skill & resume-wise. These groups aren't helping, they are hurting the sport is my bottom line.

Again, the IBF isn’t the problem. They have clearly stated rules and they stick to them. Their rankings suck only because promoters steer their fighters away from those rules… which leaves mostly the William Sculls of the world to be IBF mandos.

[Eff Pandas]

Again, the IBF isn’t the problem. They have clearly stated rules and they stick to them. Their rankings suck only because promoters steer their fighters away from those rules… which leaves mostly the William Sculls of the world to be IBF mandos.

Any "rules" that make Scull the #1 guy are counterproductive to the integrity of the sport.

Plenty of quality boxers are ranked by the IBF. At 168 Mbilli is ranked. Hes better & more proven than Scull. If anyone is #1 there it should be him. Munguia is ranked hes better & more proven than Scull. There are a few others I'd consider 100% better & more proven than Scull. And many I'd consider unknowns or untested as much as Scull who may or may not be better &/or more proven than Scull.

I'm not saying the IBF aren't the lesser corrupt belt group cuz they probably are, but they are still corrupt.