If Crawford wants to be as good as Usyk, he must beat Bivol, not Canelo

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  • eco1
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    #11
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
    Canelo is too small.

    Fury had about 40 lbs advantage over Usyk.

    So, lets say Crawford fights Bivol, Crawford comes about 160 lbs and Bivol comes about 183 in the ring on the fights night. If Crawford wins , he is as good as Usyk, I give him that.


    So you hate Crawford.... Bivol would murder him in there.

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    • -Kev-
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      #12
      Crawford comes in at 170lbs on fight night. He claims to walk around 185lbs. He himself has stated Canelo isn’t that much bigger than him.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #13
        That is just flat out retarded.

        It can't be said any other way.

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        • MikeyMike100
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          #14
          Originally posted by Smash
          if crawford beats canelo benny & bivol then who is better than him p4p ever?
          If he beats any one of those 3 hes the goat.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            This argument is a bit weak.The 40 lb gap is a function of hwt. That gap doesn’t make sense to suggest a FW has to beat Canelo for the wins to equate.

            Bud Beating Canelo at 168 would be fine. It would be a win over a consensus top 5 p4p boxer. Fury was a consensus top 8.

            Imo it would be the 2nd best win of anyone in the top, behind only Bivol beating #1 Canelo.
            It would be way ahead of Bivol beating Canelo.

            Bivol beat Canelo at 175 and Bivol is the naturally way bigger man. Crawford would be jumping up 2 more weight classes to do it.

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            • Smash
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              #16
              Originally posted by MikeyMike100



              Bivol beat Canelo at 175 and Bivol is the naturally way bigger man.
              but

              do we know what bivol weighs fight night

              ive been looking for some of his weights and he doesnt seem a big hydrator at all actually

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                #17
                Originally posted by MikeyMike100

                It would be way ahead of Bivol beating Canelo.

                Bivol beat Canelo at 175 and Bivol is the naturally way bigger man. Crawford would be jumping up 2 more weight classes to do it.
                actually, its looks like bivol was 183 v canelo

                its quite likely that canelo was actually the heavier guy in the ring that night

                even at 168 im not sure what he weighs fight night, would not be surprised if it was early 180's at all

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                  #18
                  Think about this, canelo was actually weighing in the early 170's towards the end of his time at 154

                  he has since bulked up considerably from his 154 time to his 160 time where he was quite a bit larger muscle wise & now at 168, who knows what he weighs in the ring now, lets be honest here, he is not a small guy at all, hes a short and stocky build as opposed to taller and slimmer builds, but it makes no difference as its based on weight

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MikeyMike100

                    It would be way ahead of Bivol beating Canelo.

                    Bivol beat Canelo at 175 and Bivol is the naturally way bigger man. Crawford would be jumping up 2 more weight classes to do it.
                    Canelo was a huge favorite in that fight. He also hadn’t officially lost since Floyd.

                    I see your point. Let me think about it more.

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                      #20
                      It would not shock me if Crawford beat Canelo at 168. It would be a great win of course but to me at least, not a shocker. Crawford would have a reach advantage and slight height advantage as well. Also, I don't think Canelo has much fire left for boxing.

                      Bivol? No, that's not going to happen and if it did, and Crawford won, THAT would be a shocker.

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